Comments on: Green Rally http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/ Mark and Nat, a married couple who are living in Kuwait. Both are designers, Mark works in advertising while Nat runs her own design studio called Push+Pull. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:14:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bu ziad http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-483008 bu ziad Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:41:28 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-483008 how did the rally go? how did the rally go?

]]> By: M3T4L http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482945 M3T4L Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:39:35 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482945 @gargoyle I know for a fact that unowned lands are OWNED by some party or another, whether it be MEW or MOC or KOC or whatever. I've dealt through my work at some level with those legalities, because it MIGHT seem that the land is not used, but in fact it IS used: major fuel lines, telecommunication cables, telemetry cables (my specialty), and various sewage/brackish/fresh water pipes and valves, even flowmeteres and so on ! I've seen on one or more occasions where a guy is building his dewaneyya or his private amusement park near his home and cutting the damned cables (grrr) or hitting a pipeline or what not. And legally speaking, on some sides of major roads, like road 40 /Ahmadi or road 95/Sabiya, you MUST have a permit to excavate in the vicinity, because some fuel lines are there underground and FO cables which belong to KOC and other authorities. So please, don't propagandize a baseless information. I support Green, but I support a more civilized way of living even more. In my belief, the Baladiya should MAKE whoever is in "sin", to compensate whatever they remove by making him plant some trees in a more "proper" area. Long live the trees :) @gargoyle

I know for a fact that unowned lands are OWNED by some party or another, whether it be MEW or MOC or KOC or whatever. I’ve dealt through my work at some level with those legalities, because it MIGHT seem that the land is not used, but in fact it IS used: major fuel lines, telecommunication cables, telemetry cables (my specialty), and various sewage/brackish/fresh water pipes and valves, even flowmeteres and so on !

I’ve seen on one or more occasions where a guy is building his dewaneyya or his private amusement park near his home and cutting the damned cables (grrr) or hitting a pipeline or what not.

And legally speaking, on some sides of major roads, like road 40 /Ahmadi or road 95/Sabiya, you MUST have a permit to excavate in the vicinity, because some fuel lines are there underground and FO cables which belong to KOC and other authorities.

So please, don’t propagandize a baseless information.

I support Green, but I support a more civilized way of living even more. In my belief, the Baladiya should MAKE whoever is in “sin”, to compensate whatever they remove by making him plant some trees in a more “proper” area. Long live the trees :)

]]> By: Noofa http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482936 Noofa Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:12:26 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482936 @Mark I'm not confusing the issue here. The people behind The Green Rally in West Mishref have swimming pools in their "un-owned" land! Ironically it was shown on TV on "taw il lail" when their reps were interviewied.. I'm all for going green.. not going "greed". @buziad THANK YOU! My point exactly! @Mark
I’m not confusing the issue here. The people behind The Green Rally in West Mishref have swimming pools in their “un-owned” land! Ironically it was shown on TV on “taw il lail” when their reps were interviewied.. I’m all for going green.. not going “greed”.

@buziad
THANK YOU! My point exactly!

]]> By: bu ziad http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482935 bu ziad Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:59:38 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482935 Dear All, The picture posted regarding this issue says it all. The home owner has built an illegal shed on government land and has concealed it with trees. The home owner didn’t plant the tress for the love of trees, but to use the shed and make it seem like its private property. That is very illegal and very uncivil and that is why the government is taking action. NOT because it has an issue with trees! Furthermore, there are Municipality (Baladiya) laws regarding planting trees and shrubs outside private property which requires prior approval by home owners specifically for each land. Unfortunately, people are confusing issues by not understanding the core principle. Finally gargoyle, non private land is NOT owned by Kuwaitis (although I wish it was), but is owned and managed by the government. I wonder what your source of information is! Dear All,
The picture posted regarding this issue says it all. The home owner has built an illegal shed on government land and has concealed it with trees. The home owner didn’t plant the tress for the love of trees, but to use the shed and make it seem like its private property. That is very illegal and very uncivil and that is why the government is taking action. NOT because it has an issue with trees!
Furthermore, there are Municipality (Baladiya) laws regarding planting trees and shrubs outside private property which requires prior approval by home owners specifically for each land.
Unfortunately, people are confusing issues by not understanding the core principle.
Finally gargoyle, non private land is NOT owned by Kuwaitis (although I wish it was), but is owned and managed by the government. I wonder what your source of information is!

]]> By: KuwaitQ http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482934 KuwaitQ Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:26:48 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482934 gargoyle, you haven't said anything new... but i do have empathy on the Shisha law... thats a bummer even though I don't smoke myself! gargoyle,

you haven’t said anything new…

but i do have empathy on the Shisha law… thats a bummer even though I don’t smoke myself!

]]> By: desertsky http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482933 desertsky Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:15:00 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482933 Damn.I thought it was a march to legalize marijuana.Sigh Damn.I thought it was a march to legalize marijuana.Sigh

]]> By: M3T4L http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482921 M3T4L Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:24:52 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482921 hmm .. wear green .. what if some of my Egyptian friends would like to participate ? hmm .. wear green .. what if some of my Egyptian friends would like to participate ?

]]> By: gargoyle http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482920 gargoyle Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:09:32 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482920 mark they are not removing all the trees, our house is on a corner, they removed a couple of trees near the entrance because " it was blocking view of the corner" but the rest was left alone and yes it's a full fence, we just replanted them half a meter from the curb and they said it's fine now. those who got the whole garden removed is those who made a huge back yard of it and added fountains and what not. @ Noofa & KuwaitQ logically kuwait is owned by us kuwaitis and the "un-owned land" is owned by every kuwaiti, and government grounds does not exist, they are manged by the government not owned. so planting a tree is not against the law, but building pools and diwaniyas is, yet if my neighbors are fine with me putting a diwaniya why should it be a problem if the land is not being used ? who cares any more, our way of life is being controlled, no more gardening, no more diwaniya, no more shisha after 12, no more , no more till one day people will have enough of it and ...... mark they are not removing all the trees, our house is on a corner, they removed a couple of trees near the entrance because ” it was blocking view of the corner” but the rest was left alone and yes it’s a full fence, we just replanted them half a meter from the curb and they said it’s fine now. those who got the whole garden removed is those who made a huge back yard of it and added fountains and what not.

@ Noofa & KuwaitQ
logically kuwait is owned by us kuwaitis and the “un-owned land” is owned by every kuwaiti, and government grounds does not exist, they are manged by the government not owned. so planting a tree is not against the law, but building pools and diwaniyas is, yet if my neighbors are fine with me putting a diwaniya why should it be a problem if the land is not being used ?

who cares any more, our way of life is being controlled, no more gardening, no more diwaniya, no more shisha after 12, no more , no more till one day people will have enough of it and ……

]]> By: Mark http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482918 Mark Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:40:06 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482918 sorry forgot to credit you! just updated the post. sorry forgot to credit you! just updated the post.

]]> By: Ramez http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482904 Ramez Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:54:19 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482904 Thanks for using my pic :) this issue started to be sucks Now they r removing all the trees in Jabriya Thanks for using my pic :)
this issue started to be sucks
Now they r removing all the trees in Jabriya

]]> By: carly http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482895 carly Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:54:01 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482895 I just don't get why people don't understand and respect the importance of trees and the environment in general. This doesn't have anything to do with swimming pools, diwaniyas, or greed for that matter. If people are caring and smart enough to plant and take care of plant life that is a necessary part of the environment, why should anyone begrudge them? Actually, the government should be encouraging people to plant all of the trees possible. Does no one see the connection between the lack of greens and desertification and pollution? Trees and plants filter air and produce oxygen people. It has less to do with 'artistry' and more to do with 'life'. It is time to wake up! I just don’t get why people don’t understand and respect the importance of trees and the environment in general. This doesn’t have anything to do with swimming pools, diwaniyas, or greed for that matter. If people are caring and smart enough to plant and take care of plant life that is a necessary part of the environment, why should anyone begrudge them? Actually, the government should be encouraging people to plant all of the trees possible. Does no one see the connection between the lack of greens and desertification and pollution? Trees and plants filter air and produce oxygen people. It has less to do with ‘artistry’ and more to do with ‘life’. It is time to wake up!

]]> By: Shadowq8 http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/green-rally/#comment-482886 Shadowq8 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:55:35 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=9069#comment-482886 So the baldiya HQ is in mishref? So the baldiya HQ is in mishref?

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