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	<description>Mark and Nat, a married couple who are living in Kuwait. Both are designers, Mark works in advertising while Nat runs her own design studio called Push+Pull.</description>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/horrendous-living-conditions/#comment-471983</link>
		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the comments on this board accurately reflect why we have this problem in the first place. Sami Ive been to these places - to put it plainly - you are WRONG! these are labour camps for completely legal workers. 

And the fact that nearly every one got super defensive about the Kuwait house above everything else... really tells you about what&#039;s wrong at the core here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the comments on this board accurately reflect why we have this problem in the first place. Sami Ive been to these places &#8211; to put it plainly &#8211; you are WRONG! these are labour camps for completely legal workers. </p>
<p>And the fact that nearly every one got super defensive about the Kuwait house above everything else&#8230; really tells you about what&#8217;s wrong at the core here!</p>
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		<title>By: Sami</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/horrendous-living-conditions/#comment-468414</link>
		<dc:creator>Sami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear bloggers, you should be inspired like no 43. Fubu

First of all Mark you have the right to bring such issues of awareness to peoples attention, yet you might do so less harshly.

Second I agree with no &quot;42. SecurityAdviser&quot;  He seems to have some logical and fair solutions like the closing down of the false and bogus  labor companies.

And third and most important: 

A.  Any Kuwaiti citizen would know that not all Kuwaitis live in a Mansion like that, maybe 30% do and thats something expats might not know.

B.  Obviously the ruined house were the workers live in is an ABANDONED house, which is very commonly used by ILLEGAL WORKERS/ IMMIGRANTS and not by forced labor or workers.  
If you go to Jeleeb el Shiyokh on the 6th Ring Road you will see things like that and in Khitan as well and Farwaniya

C.  The usual story goes like this.  The worker visa expire, company is broke, the sponsor fires them for whatever reasons etc, they are asked to leave the country and go to their embassy, yet they don&#039;t.  They chose to stay and sell perfumes in Kuwait city door to door office to office, and DVD movies in Salmiya same way.  Then of course they cannot afford the rent and they take refuge in empty apartments and abandoned homes that are ready to be demolished and so on.

D.  Things like this exist in many countries on the world.  The the Mexican or the Latinos from Southern American Countries who fled in waves to the USA for the last 40 years.  Allot of Them live like that in San Diego, LA, El Paso Texas and Del Rio Texas and much more of the Southern Sates in America.  The Asian illegal immigrant in Uk and Canada.  The Caucasus people in Russia &quot;Aliens in their own country&quot;.  the Gypsies in many Eastern European countries.  Chinese minority groups.  The Thai workers in Japan the list goes on.  No much has been  done to change or address these issues.  In the USA, the dishwashers and waiters and cooks and trash removers and trash truck drivers and the mexican farmers and the ones who bring the vegetables and fruits from the farm land to the fancy restaurants of NY, and LA, and Miami how do you think they live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear bloggers, you should be inspired like no 43. Fubu</p>
<p>First of all Mark you have the right to bring such issues of awareness to peoples attention, yet you might do so less harshly.</p>
<p>Second I agree with no &#8220;42. SecurityAdviser&#8221;  He seems to have some logical and fair solutions like the closing down of the false and bogus  labor companies.</p>
<p>And third and most important: </p>
<p>A.  Any Kuwaiti citizen would know that not all Kuwaitis live in a Mansion like that, maybe 30% do and thats something expats might not know.</p>
<p>B.  Obviously the ruined house were the workers live in is an ABANDONED house, which is very commonly used by ILLEGAL WORKERS/ IMMIGRANTS and not by forced labor or workers.<br />
If you go to Jeleeb el Shiyokh on the 6th Ring Road you will see things like that and in Khitan as well and Farwaniya</p>
<p>C.  The usual story goes like this.  The worker visa expire, company is broke, the sponsor fires them for whatever reasons etc, they are asked to leave the country and go to their embassy, yet they don&#8217;t.  They chose to stay and sell perfumes in Kuwait city door to door office to office, and DVD movies in Salmiya same way.  Then of course they cannot afford the rent and they take refuge in empty apartments and abandoned homes that are ready to be demolished and so on.</p>
<p>D.  Things like this exist in many countries on the world.  The the Mexican or the Latinos from Southern American Countries who fled in waves to the USA for the last 40 years.  Allot of Them live like that in San Diego, LA, El Paso Texas and Del Rio Texas and much more of the Southern Sates in America.  The Asian illegal immigrant in Uk and Canada.  The Caucasus people in Russia &#8220;Aliens in their own country&#8221;.  the Gypsies in many Eastern European countries.  Chinese minority groups.  The Thai workers in Japan the list goes on.  No much has been  done to change or address these issues.  In the USA, the dishwashers and waiters and cooks and trash removers and trash truck drivers and the mexican farmers and the ones who bring the vegetables and fruits from the farm land to the fancy restaurants of NY, and LA, and Miami how do you think they live.</p>
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		<title>By: gargoyle</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/horrendous-living-conditions/#comment-468398</link>
		<dc:creator>gargoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blah blah blah who cares, they have an embassy go and complain they will take care of their own people right ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blah blah blah who cares, they have an embassy go and complain they will take care of their own people right ?</p>
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		<title>By: Fubu</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/horrendous-living-conditions/#comment-468295</link>
		<dc:creator>Fubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what a 5 year old started 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L8FpBaFHmA&amp;feature=channel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what a 5 year old started </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L8FpBaFHmA&#038;feature=channel" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L8FpBaFHmA&#038;feature=channel</a></p>
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		<title>By: SecurityAdviser</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/horrendous-living-conditions/#comment-468269</link>
		<dc:creator>SecurityAdviser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my Opinion, First of Hats of to Mark for at least keeping alive in our minds that such a thing exists in Kuwait. Like many people on this blog have mentioned before this topic has been brought up and been publicised to no end in the past. Has it made a difference ?? Obviously taking the pictures into account NO it has not. Second Many of us have forgotten that the men and women in the yellow, green, orange and blue overalls cleaning our streets, our public toilets and the floors of our brand spanking new flashy malls actually live in such squolar and filth. And now thanks to Mark and his blog we are reminded again. Sure we do our bit and hand over the ocassional ruba dianr to the guy brushing the street next to our car at the traffic light. 
But is it enough????? 

What must be done is that the Kuwaiti public who have voices that actually reach the ears of the men who roam the corridors of power in this country should cry out their outrage at this.......at how this reflects on them as a people... as a NATION. The sound should be so loud that it should shake the very foundations of this evil. 

The perfect scenario should be that the these places be raided by the authorities and the owners of these companies be jailed. Their files  for recruitement of manpower should be closed and black listed by the ministry of social affairs and labour for at least 10 years. The owners should not be able to start a  new company under a new name at all during this time. Laws regarding minimum wage should be put forward and enforced and the same penalties should be enforced for defaulters.. The same defaulters need to be photographed and their pictures be put in the local dailes under the title of LOCAL SLUM LORD.

Only then and then only will the fatted evil doers wake up and take notice. Once they are forced to live like the workers that they have forced to live in filth will they realise the extent of their evil. 

But this will never happen in a country where money is the name of the game and where most men who roam the corridors of power are supported by the very same fatted RICH evil doers. 

The above is MY 02 cents ............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my Opinion, First of Hats of to Mark for at least keeping alive in our minds that such a thing exists in Kuwait. Like many people on this blog have mentioned before this topic has been brought up and been publicised to no end in the past. Has it made a difference ?? Obviously taking the pictures into account NO it has not. Second Many of us have forgotten that the men and women in the yellow, green, orange and blue overalls cleaning our streets, our public toilets and the floors of our brand spanking new flashy malls actually live in such squolar and filth. And now thanks to Mark and his blog we are reminded again. Sure we do our bit and hand over the ocassional ruba dianr to the guy brushing the street next to our car at the traffic light.<br />
But is it enough????? </p>
<p>What must be done is that the Kuwaiti public who have voices that actually reach the ears of the men who roam the corridors of power in this country should cry out their outrage at this&#8230;&#8230;.at how this reflects on them as a people&#8230; as a NATION. The sound should be so loud that it should shake the very foundations of this evil. </p>
<p>The perfect scenario should be that the these places be raided by the authorities and the owners of these companies be jailed. Their files  for recruitement of manpower should be closed and black listed by the ministry of social affairs and labour for at least 10 years. The owners should not be able to start a  new company under a new name at all during this time. Laws regarding minimum wage should be put forward and enforced and the same penalties should be enforced for defaulters.. The same defaulters need to be photographed and their pictures be put in the local dailes under the title of LOCAL SLUM LORD.</p>
<p>Only then and then only will the fatted evil doers wake up and take notice. Once they are forced to live like the workers that they have forced to live in filth will they realise the extent of their evil. </p>
<p>But this will never happen in a country where money is the name of the game and where most men who roam the corridors of power are supported by the very same fatted RICH evil doers. </p>
<p>The above is MY 02 cents &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mubarek</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/horrendous-living-conditions/#comment-468267</link>
		<dc:creator>Mubarek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the freakin kuwaiti house is in Dhahia...... how typical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the freakin kuwaiti house is in Dhahia&#8230;&#8230; how typical!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/horrendous-living-conditions/#comment-468266</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarcasm, buddy.  Sarcasm.  I&#039;m with you 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarcasm, buddy.  Sarcasm.  I&#8217;m with you 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: Ummekulsum</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/horrendous-living-conditions/#comment-468261</link>
		<dc:creator>Ummekulsum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mike , you mean to say Kuwaitis, brits and Americans are superior beings ? They were created with some thing else ? First of all even if they had bad working conditions back home, that&#039;s because they live in a poor country but when they are working here they should be paid according to per capita income of the working country and not there home country. And if all those workers walked out of  Kuwait, Arabs would be doing that same work.

 What the picture essentially points out are the bad living conditions and poor wage for the workers in Kuwait. Its worse than slavery because as slaves were atleast pitied but there are some people here who talk like heartless beings with no feeling whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike , you mean to say Kuwaitis, brits and Americans are superior beings ? They were created with some thing else ? First of all even if they had bad working conditions back home, that&#8217;s because they live in a poor country but when they are working here they should be paid according to per capita income of the working country and not there home country. And if all those workers walked out of  Kuwait, Arabs would be doing that same work.</p>
<p> What the picture essentially points out are the bad living conditions and poor wage for the workers in Kuwait. Its worse than slavery because as slaves were atleast pitied but there are some people here who talk like heartless beings with no feeling whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Satish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should be proud to say that my Company spends lot of money on the labours camp and we also get inspected from Ministry.  Every year when they inspect they provide with check list which are not meeting the requirements and we fulfil it immediately.

Unfortunately as someone has mentioned these labours come from country like India selling money, land, jewels just for a meagre salary.  Most of them come from Villages and due to industralisation and seasonal changes they are not able to make a decent life by agriculture.  As they are not well educated they are lured to take up job overseas by any means.  Once they get in the wrong hands and end up in these situations they cannot go back or complaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should be proud to say that my Company spends lot of money on the labours camp and we also get inspected from Ministry.  Every year when they inspect they provide with check list which are not meeting the requirements and we fulfil it immediately.</p>
<p>Unfortunately as someone has mentioned these labours come from country like India selling money, land, jewels just for a meagre salary.  Most of them come from Villages and due to industralisation and seasonal changes they are not able to make a decent life by agriculture.  As they are not well educated they are lured to take up job overseas by any means.  Once they get in the wrong hands and end up in these situations they cannot go back or complaint.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ant  Now you&#039;re saying that Filipinos, Indians, and Bengalis are people just like Kuwaitis, Brits, and Americans.  Are you insane?!  People like you should be tossed out of Kuwait for saying such things!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ant  Now you&#8217;re saying that Filipinos, Indians, and Bengalis are people just like Kuwaitis, Brits, and Americans.  Are you insane?!  People like you should be tossed out of Kuwait for saying such things!</p>
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		<title>By: Ant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A group of friends and I made a film about the street cleaners in Kuwait in 2007. Do you know they sell their belongings to pay for the Agency fees? One guy we met paid around $10,000... His whole lifes savings. The salary he was promised was KD50, he gets just KD18!!! Actually its KD 20 but they charge him KD2 for his Iqama! They live in squalid conditions in Hasawi. 8 people in a room, 16 people using one bathroom. They get no choice in the matter, this is the accomodation provided to them by the employer.

And as for this living condition being better compared to their homes in their home country - thats bull shit! All the street cleaners we visited in Hasawi are from farm lands, and they have spacious homes.. with air to breath and rivers to swim in. They showed us pictures of thei home and family. The only reason they suffer with this is because they have no money left (they gave it all away to come here). So they cant just pick up and go back like others have suggested. They have to come up with the ticket money on their own.

Can you imagine living on KD18 a month in Kuwait? Sure, its an alright salary for someone from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, but compare that salary with the living expenses here. No wonder these people go into crime and begging. 

For a rich country like Kuwait there sure as hell isnt enough being done for them. I&#039;m not asking for much, just basic human dignity. Treat them like you treat the Filipino tea boys. They live in flats in Salmiya, 4 people to a 2 bedroom flat. Not like animals in a barn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A group of friends and I made a film about the street cleaners in Kuwait in 2007. Do you know they sell their belongings to pay for the Agency fees? One guy we met paid around $10,000&#8230; His whole lifes savings. The salary he was promised was KD50, he gets just KD18!!! Actually its KD 20 but they charge him KD2 for his Iqama! They live in squalid conditions in Hasawi. 8 people in a room, 16 people using one bathroom. They get no choice in the matter, this is the accomodation provided to them by the employer.</p>
<p>And as for this living condition being better compared to their homes in their home country &#8211; thats bull shit! All the street cleaners we visited in Hasawi are from farm lands, and they have spacious homes.. with air to breath and rivers to swim in. They showed us pictures of thei home and family. The only reason they suffer with this is because they have no money left (they gave it all away to come here). So they cant just pick up and go back like others have suggested. They have to come up with the ticket money on their own.</p>
<p>Can you imagine living on KD18 a month in Kuwait? Sure, its an alright salary for someone from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, but compare that salary with the living expenses here. No wonder these people go into crime and begging. </p>
<p>For a rich country like Kuwait there sure as hell isnt enough being done for them. I&#8217;m not asking for much, just basic human dignity. Treat them like you treat the Filipino tea boys. They live in flats in Salmiya, 4 people to a 2 bedroom flat. Not like animals in a barn.</p>
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		<title>By: asd</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/horrendous-living-conditions/#comment-468237</link>
		<dc:creator>asd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure the don&#039;t pay much rent for that building,plus low maintainable.A ha well another day...</description>
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