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	<description>A blog by Mark and Nat, a married couple who are living in Kuwait. Mark works in Advertising while Nat works in TV.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Charles Manson</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-49040</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Manson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"can u possibley OD on weed?" "do you get drunk from female vaginal discharge?" "the effects of LSD on a two year old child" "signor the chutney ferret" some topics i would write about in a magazine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;can u possibley OD on weed?&#8221; &#8220;do you get drunk from female vaginal discharge?&#8221; &#8220;the effects of LSD on a two year old child&#8221; &#8220;signor the chutney ferret&#8221; some topics i would write about in a magazine</p>
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		<title>By: Geniva</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-48858</link>
		<dc:creator>Geniva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats a shame.  I heard that Kuwait was one of the top in the middle east for freedom of press and speach.  It makes me wonder how edited the other countries are.  Im really curious to read your article though.....what could have been so bad?  Maybe if you sanded down all the sharp edges and left the gist it would be printable....still how is any culture supposed to grow and keep up with the rest of the world if its creative youth keep being stifled?  Hey at least there is the net.  cheers and the clink of juice boxes are heard around the room</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a shame.  I heard that Kuwait was one of the top in the middle east for freedom of press and speach.  It makes me wonder how edited the other countries are.  Im really curious to read your article though&#8230;..what could have been so bad?  Maybe if you sanded down all the sharp edges and left the gist it would be printable&#8230;.still how is any culture supposed to grow and keep up with the rest of the world if its creative youth keep being stifled?  Hey at least there is the net.  cheers and the clink of juice boxes are heard around the room</p>
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		<title>By: Maba7es at 2:48AM [The B-Sides]</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-48733</link>
		<dc:creator>Maba7es at 2:48AM [The B-Sides]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When I was in high school the scariest word to me was maba7es. Ten years later and the scariest word to me is still maba7es. I just sent in my article to KTM magazine yesterday and a few minutes ago I get a phone call from them telling me that my article is illegal and if they print it I might get a visit from the maba7es. A very nice start to my journalistic career.   Filed under: Kuwait, Personal, Mags &#38; Books Posted by Mark on 08.16.06 &#124;       Related Entries [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When I was in high school the scariest word to me was maba7es. Ten years later and the scariest word to me is still maba7es. I just sent in my article to KTM magazine yesterday and a few minutes ago I get a phone call from them telling me that my article is illegal and if they print it I might get a visit from the maba7es. A very nice start to my journalistic career.   Filed under: Kuwait, Personal, Mags &#38; Books Posted by Mark on 08.16.06 |       Related Entries [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Signor Sasi</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45703</link>
		<dc:creator>Signor Sasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't mean the logo is copied from KTM bikes, it just reminded me of it, it looks like they copied it from KLM airlines. I think u r being close-minded by your attacks on other peoples' opinions. Speaking of which, u've got the kuwaiti "il-rass il-yabiss" thing going for you, so hang in there and I'm sure it'll bring you one step closer to those 200kd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t mean the logo is copied from KTM bikes, it just reminded me of it, it looks like they copied it from KLM airlines. I think u r being close-minded by your attacks on other peoples&#8217; opinions. Speaking of which, u&#8217;ve got the kuwaiti &#8220;il-rass il-yabiss&#8221; thing going for you, so hang in there and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll bring you one step closer to those 200kd</p>
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		<title>By: away from home</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45162</link>
		<dc:creator>away from home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regardless, i like the changes theyve made, and if theyve approached mark, im think theyre going in the right direction to imporve the quality of their content. looking forward to it, although i wonder wh ythey had tarek al duaj on their front page in the june issue, who the hell is tarek anyway????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regardless, i like the changes theyve made, and if theyve approached mark, im think theyre going in the right direction to imporve the quality of their content. looking forward to it, although i wonder wh ythey had tarek al duaj on their front page in the june issue, who the hell is tarek anyway????</p>
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		<title>By: bombaclark</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45154</link>
		<dc:creator>bombaclark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i actually think they copied it from http://www.tycoflowcontrol-eu.com/brands_results.asp?Selection=KTM

lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually think they copied it from <a href="http://www.tycoflowcontrol-eu.com/brands_results.asp?Selection=KTM" rel="nofollow">http://www.tycoflowcontrol-eu.com/brands_results.asp?Selection=KTM</a></p>
<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45146</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Signor have you seen the KTM bike logo? 

here it is incase you havent, now please tell me again whats similar?


&lt;img src="http://www.hondawest.com/NewSite_Test/Images/Sales/Logos/KTM_Logo.jpg"/&gt;

You think just because KLM and KTM have nearly the same letters that makes KTMs logo a copy. Then you mention that there is a bike company with the same name KTM but whos logo is also very different and you accuse them of copying. I hope you continue to never post a comment on my blog again because if its anything like your narrow minded response above we are all better off without you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Signor have you seen the KTM bike logo? </p>
<p>here it is incase you havent, now please tell me again whats similar?</p>
<p><img src="http://www.hondawest.com/NewSite_Test/Images/Sales/Logos/KTM_Logo.jpg"/></p>
<p>You think just because KLM and KTM have nearly the same letters that makes KTMs logo a copy. Then you mention that there is a bike company with the same name KTM but whos logo is also very different and you accuse them of copying. I hope you continue to never post a comment on my blog again because if its anything like your narrow minded response above we are all better off without you.</p>
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		<title>By: Signor Sasi</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45135</link>
		<dc:creator>Signor Sasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think u're taking this whole KTM-KLM connection wayyyy too seriously. I mean, attacking readers of your blog just for posting thier innocent ideas/comments is rude and uncalled for. I always fly KLM and when I saw the KTM logo i thought of KLM airlines and KTM bikes right away. Seriously, they could've been much more original instead of just copying other logos out there. I've been in the field for a few years and I've seen this kind of pure copying by many companies in Kuwait unfortunately. I'm used to reading ur blog a lot, Mark, but i've never posted anything before. I hope u can accept my post and my ideas and not attack them just because u don't share the same views (or that u’re going to work with KTM)... Acceptance of other people's comments and an open mind are the true signs of a designer and an artist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think u&#8217;re taking this whole KTM-KLM connection wayyyy too seriously. I mean, attacking readers of your blog just for posting thier innocent ideas/comments is rude and uncalled for. I always fly KLM and when I saw the KTM logo i thought of KLM airlines and KTM bikes right away. Seriously, they could&#8217;ve been much more original instead of just copying other logos out there. I&#8217;ve been in the field for a few years and I&#8217;ve seen this kind of pure copying by many companies in Kuwait unfortunately. I&#8217;m used to reading ur blog a lot, Mark, but i&#8217;ve never posted anything before. I hope u can accept my post and my ideas and not attack them just because u don&#8217;t share the same views (or that u’re going to work with KTM)&#8230; Acceptance of other people&#8217;s comments and an open mind are the true signs of a designer and an artist</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45134</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry if you found my comment offensive but as a designer you should easily be able to tell that there is absolutely no similarities between the KLM and KTM logos.

If you could tell me one thing thats the same, just one (the letters K and M dont count and the color also doesnt count) then I will take back what I said. Sound fair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry if you found my comment offensive but as a designer you should easily be able to tell that there is absolutely no similarities between the KLM and KTM logos.</p>
<p>If you could tell me one thing thats the same, just one (the letters K and M dont count and the color also doesnt count) then I will take back what I said. Sound fair?</p>
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		<title>By: alolo</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45133</link>
		<dc:creator>alolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - I am very offended by what you said. I didn't criticize or offend you so theres no reason to call me a crappy designer just coz i dont agree with you!  lets just agree to disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark - I am very offended by what you said. I didn&#8217;t criticize or offend you so theres no reason to call me a crappy designer just coz i dont agree with you!  lets just agree to disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Pearls</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45121</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 09:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can't wait to read your article. I hope things go well for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t wait to read your article. I hope things go well for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45071</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 06:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm an avid reader of english mags in Kuwait (whatever few there are) and mark...if you can contribute your articles towards KTM, that would be fanfuckintastic. On the matter of KLM and KTM logos resembling each other, im with you a 100%. The difference is night and day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an avid reader of english mags in Kuwait (whatever few there are) and mark&#8230;if you can contribute your articles towards KTM, that would be fanfuckintastic. On the matter of KLM and KTM logos resembling each other, im with you a 100%. The difference is night and day.</p>
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		<title>By: bahlool</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45068</link>
		<dc:creator>bahlool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 05:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another thing i noticed about ktm is they change the colour of their baner every month, it was green, then orange now it blue. thats weird i thought. there's a motorbike brand called ktm by the way. KLM is as similar to KTM as BBC is to MBC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another thing i noticed about ktm is they change the colour of their baner every month, it was green, then orange now it blue. thats weird i thought. there&#8217;s a motorbike brand called ktm by the way. KLM is as similar to KTM as BBC is to MBC</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45066</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 05:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src='http://www.248am.com/images/klmktm.gif' alt='klm ktm' /&gt;

alolo then you must be one crappy designer if you think the KLM and KTM logo are similar.

According to your train of thought, they should rename KTM to something else or else people will think its KLM.

Thats fucking stupid.</description>
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<p>alolo then you must be one crappy designer if you think the KLM and KTM logo are similar.</p>
<p>According to your train of thought, they should rename KTM to something else or else people will think its KLM.</p>
<p>Thats fucking stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: alolo</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/ktm-update/#comment-45049</link>
		<dc:creator>alolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 00:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - I am a Graphic Designer, and i care a lot about logos being original since they preject a companies image. The problem with our society that companies are too lazy to come up with their own ideas so they copy someone else's work. I am not blaming KTM, this might have been just a coincidence but whoever did this shouldve done his research 1st. and THAT to me is weak design right there.

And on a final note this logo is not directed to a specific audience. i.e designers only. so a normal person wouldnt have your desginer insight on typography, so they wouldnt notice the subtle differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark - I am a Graphic Designer, and i care a lot about logos being original since they preject a companies image. The problem with our society that companies are too lazy to come up with their own ideas so they copy someone else&#8217;s work. I am not blaming KTM, this might have been just a coincidence but whoever did this shouldve done his research 1st. and THAT to me is weak design right there.</p>
<p>And on a final note this logo is not directed to a specific audience. i.e designers only. so a normal person wouldnt have your desginer insight on typography, so they wouldnt notice the subtle differences.</p>
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