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	<title>Comments on: Q8Car vs Q8Showroom</title>
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	<description>Mark and Nat, a married Lebanese couple who are living in Kuwait. Both are creatives, Mark works in Advertising while Nat in TV.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: I sold my car with Q8car</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-439270</link>
		<dc:creator>I sold my car with Q8car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back I wanted to sell my car and decided would do a little experiment by listing my car on Q8car and also on Q8showroom and see which site ends up getting me a buyer. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Abu Badr</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-432730</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Badr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Have called waseet, and here are my findings.  They said that they only deal with q8car.  They also said that q8showroom rents space in there issues to place there cars in so i guess both hold true.  All waseet cars in the waseet listings page i guess go straight to q8car.com .  I guess waseet finds more value in placing there cars with q8cars than vice versa.  The discussion i had with the guy who answered was very interesting it was as if waseet owns q8car strange.  Any-way this is what i found</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Have called waseet, and here are my findings.  They said that they only deal with q8car.  They also said that q8showroom rents space in there issues to place there cars in so i guess both hold true.  All waseet cars in the waseet listings page i guess go straight to q8car.com .  I guess waseet finds more value in placing there cars with q8cars than vice versa.  The discussion i had with the guy who answered was very interesting it was as if waseet owns q8car strange.  Any-way this is what i found</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430983</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm personally the owner of www.5car5.com. 
a new website with unique vision that is specialised in selling cars and parts. i have released the website just a week ago. we are currently processing quality assurance tests. and have already placed over 100 cars. During testing period anyone can register for free. and upload their own FLV videos up 5MB and 15 images sized 640*480 pixels. In addition, manage alerts of particular cars they desire and adding cars directly through there accounts. This is the work of over six months and the platform is very much similar to www.autotrader.com. Finally, the challenge is on and the question is "To Be Or Not to Be" the BEST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m personally the owner of <a href="http://www.5car5.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.5car5.com</a>.<br />
a new website with unique vision that is specialised in selling cars and parts. i have released the website just a week ago. we are currently processing quality assurance tests. and have already placed over 100 cars. During testing period anyone can register for free. and upload their own FLV videos up 5MB and 15 images sized 640*480 pixels. In addition, manage alerts of particular cars they desire and adding cars directly through there accounts. This is the work of over six months and the platform is very much similar to <a href="http://www.autotrader.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.autotrader.com</a>. Finally, the challenge is on and the question is &#8220;To Be Or Not to Be&#8221; the BEST.</p>
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		<title>By: TheDuke</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430951</link>
		<dc:creator>TheDuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting discussion, apparently many around have a bias for Q8Car.

A wise man once said; for the human race to evolve we need to talk without offending and listen without defending. So here is both sides of my discussion on this issue.

Q8Showroom, I salute you for entering a monopolized market and doing such a great job. 

Looking at Q8showroom, they seem to have changed many things in the concept of car advertising, as for being a knock off, that statement seems to hold true only where visitors interact with the site, ie. search functions. Beside that everything else is different, why not think of that as a transitional period for the users; as they have been used to one way of searching? Do you honestly think that Q8Showroom is shy of developing their own version of the search functions having come so far?

As for Waseet, deal or not, paid or not, the service of placing your car in waseet is a value added service, a progress in what "used to be" a take it or leave it market. I give them that as well. Besides that, if Showroom puts your car in waseet to extend its sale none Internet users while Q8car does not, who seems to have your best interest at heart?

Finally, Q8Car is now copying ideas from Q8Showroom! When the leader becomes a follower, that should mean one party is forcing it, and that my friend is healthy and ultimately beneficial to all.

Also remember, Q8Car has been around for years, with hardly any service improvements put into place, only now are they getting around to improving thier services for you a loyal spokesman.

The concept of a service is all about being pampered by its providers, so unless all you biased commentators have something constructive to add, please refrain from dampening the efforts of those who are trying to pamper your needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting discussion, apparently many around have a bias for Q8Car.</p>
<p>A wise man once said; for the human race to evolve we need to talk without offending and listen without defending. So here is both sides of my discussion on this issue.</p>
<p>Q8Showroom, I salute you for entering a monopolized market and doing such a great job. </p>
<p>Looking at Q8showroom, they seem to have changed many things in the concept of car advertising, as for being a knock off, that statement seems to hold true only where visitors interact with the site, ie. search functions. Beside that everything else is different, why not think of that as a transitional period for the users; as they have been used to one way of searching? Do you honestly think that Q8Showroom is shy of developing their own version of the search functions having come so far?</p>
<p>As for Waseet, deal or not, paid or not, the service of placing your car in waseet is a value added service, a progress in what &#8220;used to be&#8221; a take it or leave it market. I give them that as well. Besides that, if Showroom puts your car in waseet to extend its sale none Internet users while Q8car does not, who seems to have your best interest at heart?</p>
<p>Finally, Q8Car is now copying ideas from Q8Showroom! When the leader becomes a follower, that should mean one party is forcing it, and that my friend is healthy and ultimately beneficial to all.</p>
<p>Also remember, Q8Car has been around for years, with hardly any service improvements put into place, only now are they getting around to improving thier services for you a loyal spokesman.</p>
<p>The concept of a service is all about being pampered by its providers, so unless all you biased commentators have something constructive to add, please refrain from dampening the efforts of those who are trying to pamper your needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Yazan</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430941</link>
		<dc:creator>Yazan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion: )

If you are searching for something new about a site which is involved in cars market here in Q8, you can visit Seyayer.com

I don’t want to advertise for the site, but when our team started to think to build up a website that deals with cars market, we thought to do something different. Of course we cannot compete with Q8CAR if we don’t have something special in our site because of the long experience they got and their huge customer base , so we brought up the video clip idea, check out yourself if the idea still not clear.

Finally, it looks like all my comments is focusing on advertising for Seyayer.com, but as I can understand it is allowed to advertise for something if it is “beneficial to the topic thats being discussed”. : )

Can I know your comments on our site, please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion: )</p>
<p>If you are searching for something new about a site which is involved in cars market here in Q8, you can visit Seyayer.com</p>
<p>I don’t want to advertise for the site, but when our team started to think to build up a website that deals with cars market, we thought to do something different. Of course we cannot compete with Q8CAR if we don’t have something special in our site because of the long experience they got and their huge customer base , so we brought up the video clip idea, check out yourself if the idea still not clear.</p>
<p>Finally, it looks like all my comments is focusing on advertising for Seyayer.com, but as I can understand it is allowed to advertise for something if it is “beneficial to the topic thats being discussed”. : )</p>
<p>Can I know your comments on our site, please?</p>
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		<title>By: Hellraiser</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430932</link>
		<dc:creator>Hellraiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this goes to show that 248am is better than both sites if you wanna sell your car or bike hehe, mark you should start charging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this goes to show that 248am is better than both sites if you wanna sell your car or bike hehe, mark you should start charging.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430923</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it make a difference to the end user? All the end user cares about is that q8showroom will place your car in Waseet while Q8car wont. The end user won't care that Q8car had the option to post the cars in waseet but they refused, that means very little to a person who is trying to sell their car...

My experiment wasn't premature, Q8showroom has been around for like a month or more now and have already started becoming really popular and Q8car is the standard to follow so it would have been a perfect versus. Q8car have their advantages while Q8showroom have theirs and I personally like both sites each for their advantages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it make a difference to the end user? All the end user cares about is that q8showroom will place your car in Waseet while Q8car wont. The end user won&#8217;t care that Q8car had the option to post the cars in waseet but they refused, that means very little to a person who is trying to sell their car&#8230;</p>
<p>My experiment wasn&#8217;t premature, Q8showroom has been around for like a month or more now and have already started becoming really popular and Q8car is the standard to follow so it would have been a perfect versus. Q8car have their advantages while Q8showroom have theirs and I personally like both sites each for their advantages.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Badr</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430921</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Badr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way Mark is right Q8car is a competitor and so is Q8Hp, Q8rpm, and all the other second rate Q8 sites but i agree competition is healthy and it causes even a market leader to step up his game sometimes.

I am also partial to Q8car, like jimmy, but i believe that its nice to have options.  I am actually going to call waseet my self and check on what jimmy is saying.  I will post my findings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way Mark is right Q8car is a competitor and so is Q8Hp, Q8rpm, and all the other second rate Q8 sites but i agree competition is healthy and it causes even a market leader to step up his game sometimes.</p>
<p>I am also partial to Q8car, like jimmy, but i believe that its nice to have options.  I am actually going to call waseet my self and check on what jimmy is saying.  I will post my findings.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430920</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't say they dont have a deal.  I said that waseet has an exclusive contract with q8car.  Q8car is allowed to place there cars on waseet but they choose not too.  All of waseet cars on the other hand get listed on q8car. Call waseet and ask if you list your car what happens they automatically have all cars listed on waseet downloaded to q8car and thats mainly how there cars are sold.  All i was saying is Q8showroom is renting space in waseet and placing his cars there he has no arrangement with waseet he is merely an advertiser trust me call waseet and you can find that out yourself.  You are right competition is good and i didn't mean to bag on q8showroom, i just thought your experiment was a bit premature considering the exposure both sites get.  I also agree with blondie, you should have done this experiment than showed your bloggers the results which in my opinion would be quite obvious.  Either way i wish them all the best of luck even though i think one needs it a lot more than the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say they dont have a deal.  I said that waseet has an exclusive contract with q8car.  Q8car is allowed to place there cars on waseet but they choose not too.  All of waseet cars on the other hand get listed on q8car. Call waseet and ask if you list your car what happens they automatically have all cars listed on waseet downloaded to q8car and thats mainly how there cars are sold.  All i was saying is Q8showroom is renting space in waseet and placing his cars there he has no arrangement with waseet he is merely an advertiser trust me call waseet and you can find that out yourself.  You are right competition is good and i didn&#8217;t mean to bag on q8showroom, i just thought your experiment was a bit premature considering the exposure both sites get.  I also agree with blondie, you should have done this experiment than showed your bloggers the results which in my opinion would be quite obvious.  Either way i wish them all the best of luck even though i think one needs it a lot more than the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430917</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy they do have a deal, just check the q8showroom website or give them a call. For KD10 you can have your car listed on Waseet and Q8Showroom. On the other hand when I spoke to Q8Car they didn't have a deal with a Waseet option.

Anyway I'm not here to compare the graphics or layouts of the two sites, I am not here trying to see who copied who. That was already discussed in a previous post. The aim if I did list my car on both sites is to see which one would sell my car quicker. Its very simple.

Anyway competition is good and Q8Showroom like it or not is Q8Car's competitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy they do have a deal, just check the q8showroom website or give them a call. For KD10 you can have your car listed on Waseet and Q8Showroom. On the other hand when I spoke to Q8Car they didn&#8217;t have a deal with a Waseet option.</p>
<p>Anyway I&#8217;m not here to compare the graphics or layouts of the two sites, I am not here trying to see who copied who. That was already discussed in a previous post. The aim if I did list my car on both sites is to see which one would sell my car quicker. Its very simple.</p>
<p>Anyway competition is good and Q8Showroom like it or not is Q8Car&#8217;s competitor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430903</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen Mark, i think it's interesting that you want to compare both sites but in reality i don't really know what you are comparing.  Q8showroom is a straight knockoff of Q8car.  Everything Q8car does he copies and i believe that he used to rent space from them until he was replaced by a higher paying advertiser.  Q8car has every major dealership on board and boasts undisputed results.  Q8car is not about fancy graphics and layout it just works and how.  I have sold many cars on this site and usually in a matter of days.  Your phone doesn't stop ringing when u place your car on that site and you get calls from all over the region.  

In response to your price comparison above:  Waseet has no deal with Q8Showroom.  I called them and they basically rent space in waseet and charge you money to place your car in there website and waseet.   Q8Car has an exclusive contract with Waseet because in the waseet listings pages q8car logo appears on every page and if you call waseet they will tell u that whenever you list with them your car goes straight up on q8car.  People listing on waseet actually are very keen on having there car put on q8car so the deal q8showroom offers is truly of no value.  

I think that Q8showroom is marketing very well and hyping up the site during its campaign but they will find  no results at the end because they do nothing different and are competing with a site that without any marketing is known by the entire country.  Actually i will be very interested to see q8car run an aggressive marketing campaign and see where there numbers reach. I have been involved in the kuwaiti car market for years and seen many sites developed none of which have attained 25 percent of what q8car has. Also q8car's business model works great for them and isn't copied as easily as some may think.  To be honest i have thought of copying them before but just wasn't willing to take the risk and thought buying them would probably be a better option.  Guess I'm too late now.  I think Dartmedia who i believe i read in one of your blogs mark, is the owner of that site should stick to online advertising because they do a good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen Mark, i think it&#8217;s interesting that you want to compare both sites but in reality i don&#8217;t really know what you are comparing.  Q8showroom is a straight knockoff of Q8car.  Everything Q8car does he copies and i believe that he used to rent space from them until he was replaced by a higher paying advertiser.  Q8car has every major dealership on board and boasts undisputed results.  Q8car is not about fancy graphics and layout it just works and how.  I have sold many cars on this site and usually in a matter of days.  Your phone doesn&#8217;t stop ringing when u place your car on that site and you get calls from all over the region.  </p>
<p>In response to your price comparison above:  Waseet has no deal with Q8Showroom.  I called them and they basically rent space in waseet and charge you money to place your car in there website and waseet.   Q8Car has an exclusive contract with Waseet because in the waseet listings pages q8car logo appears on every page and if you call waseet they will tell u that whenever you list with them your car goes straight up on q8car.  People listing on waseet actually are very keen on having there car put on q8car so the deal q8showroom offers is truly of no value.  </p>
<p>I think that Q8showroom is marketing very well and hyping up the site during its campaign but they will find  no results at the end because they do nothing different and are competing with a site that without any marketing is known by the entire country.  Actually i will be very interested to see q8car run an aggressive marketing campaign and see where there numbers reach. I have been involved in the kuwaiti car market for years and seen many sites developed none of which have attained 25 percent of what q8car has. Also q8car&#8217;s business model works great for them and isn&#8217;t copied as easily as some may think.  To be honest i have thought of copying them before but just wasn&#8217;t willing to take the risk and thought buying them would probably be a better option.  Guess I&#8217;m too late now.  I think Dartmedia who i believe i read in one of your blogs mark, is the owner of that site should stick to online advertising because they do a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Go</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430902</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Go</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how much was it new?</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430891</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah ok interesting point. well i haven't posted the car up on their sites yet and i dont think i will anymore since i already have one guy who wants the car and a few more who will be checking it out tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah ok interesting point. well i haven&#8217;t posted the car up on their sites yet and i dont think i will anymore since i already have one guy who wants the car and a few more who will be checking it out tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: blondie</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430890</link>
		<dc:creator>blondie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what i mean is that you are announcing that you will be monitoring both sites to see which one does a better job of getting your car sold ahead of the fact. this would potentially allow both of the sites owners to focus on your car specifically (since you've put it up here) and MAKE SURE that as many people call you and try to get your car sold therefore skewing the outcome. does that not make sense still?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what i mean is that you are announcing that you will be monitoring both sites to see which one does a better job of getting your car sold ahead of the fact. this would potentially allow both of the sites owners to focus on your car specifically (since you&#8217;ve put it up here) and MAKE SURE that as many people call you and try to get your car sold therefore skewing the outcome. does that not make sense still?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/q8car-vs-q8showroom/#comment-430888</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that didn't make sense...</description>
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