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By: The Healthier Lifestyle: Napket

The Healthier Lifestyle: Napket — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:32:12 +0000

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By: QTB

QTB — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:43:56 +0000

an example is a trainer i know….he is very short like 4’11 so around 160cm but he is very fit…he weight around 90kg which puts him in the unhealthy range in the bmi yet he is quite the opposite

By: QTB

QTB — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:42:55 +0000

DB7 BMI can be a bad indicator of weight for people like bodybuilder who are very heavy yet not fat or for horse jockeys who are very short yet not unhealthily skinny, but for normal people of normal height such as mark….it is a very good indicator of what ur weight should be in comparison to your height

By: cajie

cajie — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:45:15 +0000

db7 wrote “dude just say you’re too lazy (or cheap) to use proven methods, because they are there.”

Which proven methods? Certainly not the mirror?

And since you made the “cheap” reference, is that your way of saying you are superior? or rich?
I hope you are both. No jealously here. No sir.

By: db7

db7 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:26:00 +0000

@cajie
Just like your height squared and your weight are not directly correlated.

And you can’t just say ohh.. 26.5 makes me obese, I’m 26.4 pheeeewww.

Hahaha dude you’re comparing the scientific LAW of gravity with a statistical equation, what an insult for Newton

Health or weight, it doesn’t make a difference for the fact that BMI is bullshit today.

Until something more scientific comes along? dude just say you’re too lazy (or cheap) to use proven methods, because they are there.

Anyhow, why am i wasting time.. good luck with your BMI.

By: cajie

cajie — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:09:09 +0000

@db7
You are mixing up “health” & “weight”. BMI is not an indication of your health – and health & weight are not directly correlated.

And it’s not my determination of getting fit that we are discussing. We just can’t say “Oh, as long as I think I look good in the mirror, I am at my ideal weight”. We need boundaries that alert us when something might be going wrong. Some of the boundaries/ranges have scientific data to back them up (such as when you get a medical report). Some boundaries are estimates (such as the amount of calories you need to consume in a day). BMI is one such estimate, and a pretty decent one at that.

And until something more scientific comes along, that’s what people will keep using. You can pooh-pooh all you want, but you need to provide an alternative before you tell people not to use something. And the age of the theory has nothing to do with it. Newton’s theory (now law) of gravity is more than 300 years old.

By: db7

db7 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:50:02 +0000

@cajie:
Again,convex mirrors would be another method of lying to yourself about your weight, which as i said is entirely different mental problem in itself.

so if you want to base your health on 200 year old equation and lie to yourself while your love handles dangle on your sides, that’s up to you cajie. But if you have determination to get fit, trust me you won’t use the BMI.

and yes Your health SHOULD be an individual assessment and not based on the average of the general public 200 years ago.

cheers

By: cajie

cajie — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:53:48 +0000

@db7
So rather than relying of a generally acceptable objective base, your solution is an individual subjective assessment.
I see a big jump in sales for convex mirrors.

By: Senzi Bianca

Senzi Bianca — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:46:24 +0000

hey ozy any possibility for me to know the secret :)

Hey mark..i too love the place it is amazing and so peaceful…i go there every once in a month… trying to eat healthy myself… :)

By: db7

db7 — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:55:08 +0000

@cajie

Alternatives? Oh how about a mirror?
I don’t believe a decimal point should determine if you’re fat or not despite the fact you have man boobs, or a beer belly.

But… if you just wanna lie to yourself and say i have my ideal weight (which also doesn’t mean you’re healthy) and keep all that extra stuff hanging, that’s entirely a different matter.

cheers

By: Security Adviser

Security Adviser — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:36:16 +0000

Hey Mark,

Thought you did’nt fancy chicken unless of course it came in Shawerma!! Was under the impression you were more of a beef patty burger kinda guy. Then again I have eaten at Nando’s; their chicken is quite decent not at all greasy like Chicken Tikka. And I love their peri peri sauces gives a little zing to the food.

By: cajie

cajie — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:38:50 +0000

@db7,
Yes..I know about the debate but the article does not provide any alternatives (which is what I was asking). It’s fine to say something is wrong but unless you provide an alternative to fix it, there’s no point.
Plus from the article…”According to CDC, the BMI is a reliable indicator of body fatness for people”. Those guys at CDC know a thing or two about science.