Two Kuwaiti Bloggers Attacked and Arrested by Secret Police

This is really fucked up! Two bloggers, Bashar Al-Sayegh and Jassim Al-Qames were attacked and taken into custody by the secret police. The reason? Some anonymous reader posted an inappropriate comment about the Amir. Now the thing is Bashar deleted the comment once he read it but he was still held accountable. That’s really freaky, if two Kuwaitis got arrested and beaten up by the police for a comment by an anonymous user what chance do I or many of us expat bloggers have?
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1. izgerty | August 20th, 2007 at 12:03 am
OMFG !!!!!!!!!!!
2. izgerty | August 20th, 2007 at 12:03 am
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is big !!!
3. MiRoOoOo!i! | August 20th, 2007 at 12:06 am
SO i guess if someone wants to hurt u , he’ll do the same here . u better switch of the comments for a while
4. izgerty | August 20th, 2007 at 12:10 am
Ok look Mark:
KUWAIT CONSTITUTION! :
Article 31 [Arrest, Move, No Torture]
(1) No person shall be arrested, detained, searched, or compelled to reside in a specified place, nor shall the residence of any person or his liberty to choose his place of residence or his liberty of movement be restricted, except in accordance with the provisions of the law.
(2) No person shall be subjected to torture or to degrading treatment.
Source: http://www.servat.unibe.ch/law/icl/ku00000_.html
Where did all that go ? Why aren’t they following the constitution ?
5. MpJs | August 20th, 2007 at 12:17 am
Better be careful with that fake mark. He may get you in deep shit!
6. vampire | August 20th, 2007 at 12:23 am
that sucks
7. al-marzouq | August 20th, 2007 at 12:30 am
this is messed up, the country is turning into one of those countries that i wont mention their names so i wouldnt be beaten up…. but i think u guys know wat i mean… keep us updates man, this should be in news papers….
9. al-marzouq | August 20th, 2007 at 12:36 am
I refuse to think of our government and its civilized constitution as a police state, especially with many mistakes made in the 30s and 70s and 80s! and especially after the absolutely incredible support received during the invasion of Kuwait by the people…. but they make it hard not to think of them that way.
I, Bibi Nasser Al-Sabah am against the detaining and torchering of Jassim Al Qames and Bashar Al-Sayegh.
this is wat the emirs grand daughter had to say about the situation…. its really messed up, and i do actually visit this website which is very reliable and never disrespectful…. even in these occasions the disrespectful remarks and deleted……. i think it has to do with the the whole attack on the minister of defense and interior, jabel al-mubarak….. they been trying to get at him for a while now, the whole campaign is led by al-watan news paper
all in all these guys work for mohammed al-sager who owns al-jarida news paper, he will get them out sooner or later
10. Anonymous | August 20th, 2007 at 12:47 am
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11. Hellraiser | August 20th, 2007 at 12:52 am
Ooops here goes freedom of speech, was there ever one to begin with?
12. IZzY | August 20th, 2007 at 12:57 am
hmmm
sorry but i find something aint right about this story
it feels like it has missing links
13. izgerty | August 20th, 2007 at 1:03 am
someone make a facebook group or something ;p
14. Ron Jeremy's Vaseline | August 20th, 2007 at 1:21 am
Mark, my account was magically deleted. I can’t log in and comment on your forum anymore. I thought it had to do something with my computer at home, so I went to an Internet Cafe in Salmiya to see if I can log in, but I couldn’t.
15. Mark | August 20th, 2007 at 1:26 am
RJV try now should work. For some reason your account was set to not active..
16. Wer3Y | August 20th, 2007 at 2:23 am
Mark Watch it you could be next!
IZzY i guess your right…
you guys dont know anything u always think the press is 100% Pure information most of it Lies!
17. Salo | August 20th, 2007 at 2:40 am
yeah better watch that fake mark man!
18. mishref | August 20th, 2007 at 3:31 am
Welcome to China!
19. Equalizer | August 20th, 2007 at 4:48 am
This whole incident is a disaster for the MOI. How the hell do those idiots arrest someone without even showing their IDs? Jassim has every right to fight back, and I would do the same if some freak claims he is secret police.
20. the second one | August 20th, 2007 at 5:26 am
We might be seeing freedom of speech demonstrations out side parliament.. the sort where everyone just stands in rows, with tapes over their mouths.
21. jajaja | August 20th, 2007 at 5:51 am
this sort of arrests have existed in this country long ago and are still present, this is nothing new, amn el dawla (secret police) arresting some person for god knows what without explaining and using force for basically everything
22. jajaja | August 20th, 2007 at 5:52 am
btw: http://www.aljarida.com/aljarida/Article.aspx?id=20328
24. al-marzouq | August 20th, 2007 at 7:06 am
^^ good idea actually lol…… a silent demonstration
25. IZzY | August 20th, 2007 at 7:30 am
@wer3y
i know that the press is never always right but this story feels missing, they could have responded confirming or it could have been about something else and not this story at all.
u said it urself no everything in the news is 100% so why r u not considering this news?
26. ahlein | August 20th, 2007 at 7:59 am
siiigh….another reminder that at the end of the day we live in shitsville with no rights,no booze,no freedom of speech,and no fucking parks or any real entertainment.
27. SkyHook | August 20th, 2007 at 8:57 am
Something is strange here … Im sure Kuwait isnt that bad of a state to get 2 guys for a comment on some blogg there MUST be something else missing here … for everyones sake i hope there is something missing or we r in for one hell of a ride …
29. N. | August 20th, 2007 at 9:13 am
This was bound to happen sooner or later. We won’t stand and not do a thing!
Noted, and linked.
30. lfc-Q8 | August 20th, 2007 at 9:14 am
mark qucik delete the michael moore post or u will get busted :)
31. Amjad | August 20th, 2007 at 9:14 am
Can anyone share the link of Jassim’s blog?
32. Eliedh | August 20th, 2007 at 11:23 am
Reminds me of pre-2005 Lebanon, watch out, that’s how they start!
Hope Bachar is released soon
33. Faber-CastellÙ | August 20th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Bottom line, your ass is next Mark ;p
34. bag | August 20th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Today Bashar and Jassim are Hero of freedom because of State Security Dep. act. It has been a long time it is a big time GOOOOOOF> somebody is distorting
35. mushroom | August 20th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
interesting….
good luck to all of you.
36. mushroom | August 20th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
sorry for posting 2x.
Mark dude, better stick to your shawerma reviews.
37. steve_leb | August 20th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
mushroom… lololololol….
38. Eric | August 20th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Mark,
Who are you to talk about The Kuwaiti constitution or kuwait laws ? Are you a Kuwaiti? do you or any member of your family Has a Kuwaiti citizenship ? Rather than talking about the laws in Kuwait and it’s constitution. Look at the fucked up situation in your country and talk about it . So next time shut you lebanese ass up and don’t speak fee ma la y3neek!
39. mushroom | August 20th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
there’s a saying steve_leb, better safe than sorry. hahaha
but anyways, mark dude, we will visit you in jail or at the hospital if you get beaten up or jailed dont worry..and we will bring you 2 shawermas.. both chicken coz u dont like meat anyways.. and a coke of course…
——just kidding——
40. Anonymous | August 20th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
Why all the hate eric? You’re giving Kuwaitis a bad name.
41. Armani Exchanger | August 20th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Simply … Don’t mess with the Amir!
42. w | August 20th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
eric you sound like the most ignorant of retards
43. mushroom | August 20th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
#38: Sir i didnt see any post/s from Mark talking about the Kuwaiti Constitution. If there are any then please ignore this message and i wont be saying anything else.
#41: I totally agree and the Amir earns some respect.
44. ahlein | August 20th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
eric,just because mark isnt kuwaiti doesnt mean he doesnt have the right to talk about whats happening in kuwait….as long as he lives here he has every right that anyone kuwaiti has (at least thats how it is in the rest of the world). if the q8is dont break that old fashioned attitude that only kuwaitis can criticise kuwait,then kuwait wil be left even more behind the rest of the gulf than it already is.Besides, this post is to defend peoples right to free speech…even ignorant monkeys like you!
45. Kuwaitya | August 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
My darling Mark,
If you don’t feel good living in kuwait, enjele3, ethlef 3an deratna….ebtalashna
انجلع, اذل٠عن ديرتنا….ابتلشنا بهالأشكال, عايشه على خير ديرتنا وهم تسب وتذم
اذا أكرمت الكريم ملكته و اذا أكرمت اللئيم تمردا
46. Bask | August 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Eric, what the hell are u talking about, is this ur “professional”, “civilized”, best answer you have! i think with such mental abilities, u are a disgrace to any nationality. Before u fuck were born we had a parliament and a constitution! Next time u want to fuck with facts or history the least go do your homework. The fucked up situation in Lebanon is a dream to many nations around “DEMOCRACYâ€, im sure with the demeaning tone of voice used in your post its something u never heard of! And that country your using as an example happens to be the heart of politics and what influences it directly effects the region as a whole. Too much for you to handle eh? People like you can destroy and never be a useful part of society. You see the intense situation where 2 people had their civil rights broken! Have families that are worried shit about them, are in a mind set where they are condemned and humiliated in their own country & instead of you helping them / us to preserve righteousness amongst people and democracy, u come and turn this cause into bullshit! And who the fuck are u to threaten mark or anyone else, come forward and present urself and talk like a man Mr ERIC. People like you should be ignored and left alone. “law kana al kalam min fidda fal sokout min zhahab!”
Keep up the good work mark, this cause is bigger than this prick! He represents himself only.
47. Anonymous | August 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Be civil. Be clever. Be right.
48. Mo Hat | August 20th, 2007 at 4:13 pm
eric, mushroom, and kuwaitiya, I hereby pronounce you FAGS OF THE STATE.
49. mushroom | August 20th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
lols. what did i do?
50. a girl | August 20th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
I dont think Eric is Kuwaiti!!!! Never heard of a proud Kuwaiti calls himself eric!!!!!
The guy has split-personality…
And if you are so Americanize, maybe you should defend the right of speech !!!!!!!
you are soooooo hypocrite
51. Anonymous | August 20th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
I think random hate speech comments should be completely ignored as they are a complete waste of time; especially since they’re from people hiding behind their monitors.
52. a girl | August 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
I’m a proud Kuwaiti, and what happened yesterday to the 2 journalists did not shake or made me less proud of me beginning Kuwait, “few fucked up (barbarian ppl) will not and cannot change my feelings and believes of how remarkable Kuwaitis are.â€
53. Bask | August 20th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
it seems ur a casualty of war mushroom :)
54. mushroom | August 20th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
ouch i got pawned. but hey now, im on ur side.
everything’s cool =)
55. Eliedh | August 20th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
I noticed some Q8ties have some weird form of patriotism, they can’t stand a remark about Q8 and take it as a personal offense, masslane this Eric guy asked Mark to look at the situation in Lebanon and not comment about Kuwait, did this guy ever bothered to watch news or pick a Kuwaiti newspaper and read it?? didn’t he notice that Kuwaitis are talking about what’s happening in Lebanon and that you don’t see Lebanese going crazy about it???
56. Faber-CastellÙ | August 20th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Armani Exchanger = Stupid
57. Monotheist | August 20th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
Extremely messed up. We need to introduce the right to bear arms into the constitution. Conceal/carry firearms license ftw.
58. MpJs | August 20th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
Faber Castell:- More stupid! :)
59. Ali Bonga | August 20th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Ana men el balaaaad deeeee!!!
60. Anonymous | August 20th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Eliedh: This has nothing to do with being Kuwaiti or bearing any other nationality; some people are just plain stupid.
61. Cerebral Assassin | August 20th, 2007 at 11:24 pm
Kudos Mo Hat:)
62. Eliedh | August 20th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Anonymous, true but those people in here are Kuwaitis, that doesn’t mean all Kuwaitis are like this and that doesn’t mean that this only happens in Kuwait, I just talked about Kuwaitis since Eric is apparently Kuwaiti bass no offense to Kuwait and Kuwaitis, it’s a great country with great people and nearly half the blogs I regularly read are by Kuwaiti bloggers!
63. مـعــارضـة | August 20th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
أطلقوا سرا؅ الشعب
لن يركع شعب هزه الظلم سنينا…
لن يركع لن يركع لو طال الزمانا
64. Anonymous | August 21st, 2007 at 12:07 am
We love you too Eliedh ahaha
65. Ali Bonga | August 21st, 2007 at 12:14 am
Reminder : Ana men el baaaalad deee! and a wise man once said
“Things that change remain the same!”
66. sfsa78@hotmail.com | August 21st, 2007 at 2:10 am
THere should be freedom of speach on all topics, accross the board, from politics to religion.
67. sfsa78@hotmail.com | August 21st, 2007 at 2:21 am
Since we have no law against disrespecting the emir, and one feels that he/she will not break the law when one critises the emir, then why not have a law that exsist in Thailand, whereby, by law, any one dissrespecting the king of thailand will face punishment… This way it would be clear that one is breaking a law.
My 2 cents on this issue is that it was rather exagerated a bit, and they might have been some resistance towards the arrest. Maybe the arresting police officers were a little heavy handed, and might get their wrists slapped.. who knows. More news will come out soon.. all will be clarified. There’s bound to be some kind of damage control on this issue.
68. STING | August 21st, 2007 at 2:27 am
all must check this
http://www.7aar.com/up-pic/10-5-2007/517dafc356.gif
69. Mark deSouza | August 21st, 2007 at 5:39 am
Fake Mark? You do know that there are MANY Mark’s. Not everyone is named Ahmad and Tariq. Gosh.
70. Anonymous | August 21st, 2007 at 11:20 am
sfsa78@hotmail.com:
We do have a law against disrespecting the emir which we dearly uphold.
71. Faber-CastellÙ | August 21st, 2007 at 12:48 pm
MpJs, go do your homework.
72. Nasser | August 21st, 2007 at 6:59 pm
We will not let those Secret Police bastards who were involved in this illegal arrest and detention go unpunished!
They will be brought to juctice..This cannot happen, and will not happen again in Kuwait!
73. chikapappi | August 21st, 2007 at 10:45 pm
45. Kuwaitya | August 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
My darling Mark,
If you don’t feel good living in kuwait, enjele3, ethlef 3an deratna….ebtalashna
انجلع, اذل٠عن ديرتنا….ابتلشنا بهالأشكال, عايشه على خير ديرتنا وهم تسب وتذم
اذا أكرمت الكريم ملكته و اذا أكرمت اللئيم تمردا
WHAT THE FREGGIN F@#$!
Why not be civil when leaving a comment! Laykoun you are paying Mark, me or my family salaries from your own pocket o ana mo 3arfa!
Come on for god’s sake! get over this & grow up! Shallow!
74. Faber-CastellÙ | August 22nd, 2007 at 12:55 am
Technically, we are paying Mark’s salary.
75. Mark | August 22nd, 2007 at 12:59 am
lol thats true
76. whynotkw | August 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 am
Hello Everyone,
their is more to this than what we have heard, MOI has followed procedure legally, lets not jump on the bandwagon untill all the facts are out on the table, Kuwait is known to have freedom of speech and has a democracy one should be proud of.
77. sfsa78@hotmail.com | August 22nd, 2007 at 4:50 am
“This is a national security crime†he said, referring to article article 25 of criminal law which states a prison term “not exceeding five years will be handed down to anyone who publicly challenges the rights or authorities of the Amir or insults him – whether in speech, writing, drawing, or any other means of expression.â€
I was wrong, we do apparently have a law against dissrespecting the Emir. But somehow am disapointed that we are in need of this law.
78. Anonymous | August 22nd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
whynotkw: Don’t be so naive. Being an idealist is like digging your own grave.
sfsa78@hotmail.com: I believe its just to set the boundries; it was never the case where the people of Kuwait worried about insulting the Emir because it is not of our nature.
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