Wataniya W-Net High-Speed Internet
I am going to start off by saying I am not a fan of Wataniya. I have been an MTC user since 1995 and I am very loyal to the brand. So, when I was contacted by Wataniya to try out their new W-net internet router I wasn’t very thrilled because I would rather it had been MTC calling me. But I still went ahead and met with the Wataniya guy who turned out to be cool and a Nintendo Wii fan and he explained to me what W-net was and told me that Wataniya had hooked me up with a 6 month prepaid subscription. I was thinking worst case scenario if the connection turned out to be crap I could take the router to work and hook it up over there since my office lacked a wifi connection which annoys the hell out of me whenever I take my Macbook to work. After using the device for over 2 weeks I can say I am impressed.
When I first opened the package I found the Quick Start Guide which involved 11 steps on how to setup the connection. I ignored the guide, turned on the router and connected to it via wifi on my Macbook. Thats it, I was connected to the Internet. Its a lot easier then 11 steps.
The Wataniya router works on the HSDPA network which is a 3G mobile protocol. Currently 3G isn’t covered everywhere in Kuwait so if you don’t have 3G in your area you will end up connecting onto the much slower EDGE network. So if you want to take full advantage of W-net you better hope you live in a 3G zone. I live in Salmiya and I have 3G here.
The most impressive thing about the W-Net connection is the download speed. I have a 512 DSL connection by Qualitynet and I usually download files at around 63 KB/sec. With W-net on the other hand I download at around 107 KB/sec which is nearly twice as fast as my DSL connection. The upload speed is slow though at around 15 KB/sec where as my Qualitynet hits around 35 KB/sec.
Loading websites feels slower on the Wataniya connection. When I type in a URL its always quicker to load on my Qualitynet connection. I thought it was because of the connection latency but I pinged 248am.com on both my Qualitynet connection and the Wataniya connection and the results were very close so I don’t know why the lack of acceleration.
Qualitynet
PING 248am.com (66.199.240.42): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=0 ttl=45 time=321.393 ms
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=305.564 ms
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=2 ttl=45 time=325.444 ms
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=3 ttl=45 time=356.846 ms
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=4 ttl=45 time=376.722 ms
Wataniya W-Net
PING 248am.com (66.199.240.42): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=0 ttl=45 time=306.380 ms
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=327.925 ms
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=2 ttl=45 time=383.964 ms
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=3 ttl=45 time=295.931 ms
64 bytes from 66.199.240.42: icmp_seq=4 ttl=45 time=472.001 ms
For the geek users, you can customize the settings of the router to your liking just as if it was an ordinary router. It originally came set with the IP address 192.168.1.1 but my network runs on 192.168.0.X so I just logged in to the router settings and just changed stuff like turning of DHCP and changing the routers name. The router has an Ethernet port so you can connect it to the regular network or directly to your computer in case you don’t have wifi.
The price of the router plus Wataniya data line is KD135. The monthly charge for the connection is KD28, or KD300 for 1 year and KD565 for 2. I don’t know if you can order a different cheaper router off the web and use it with the Wataniya data line, I guess it could work.
Would I give up my DSL connection for W-Net? No I wouldn’t. I upload a lot of stuff all the time and 35 KB/sec is slow for me yet alone 15. I also browse the web a lot and like it when pages load instantly. The W-Net connection reminds me of my previous Shownet connection (which was Satellite based). It has a high top speed but slow acceleration meaning when browsing websites you don’t really feel the connection is fast only when you start downloading files do you notice it.
Would I recommend the W-Net connection? Yes in certain situations. For example in my old place in Salwa I couldn’t get a DSL line setup because the phone network in my street didn’t support it. My only option was a Satellite/Dialup combo which sucked. If I was still living there then I would definitely get W-net. Also for people who can’t get phone lines for one reason or another or for people who simply want an Internet connection wherever they go (camping, challet, anywhere with a power outlet) then this would also be a good option.
Am I going to take the router to the office? Nope, whenever I have files to download I just switch over to the W-Net connection and download them. Its really convenient having it because its cutting my download time in half. Anyway if you have any questions regarding W-Net just leave a comment below and I will try to answer it.
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66 Comments, add your own...
1. Nael | January 8th, 2007 at 11:51 pm
I think wireless routers aren’t commonly used at homes here in Kuwait, atleast not yet. You might find access points in cafes… etc, and connect to the internet. In Toronto, wireless routers are so common that I sometimes connect to the neighbor’s wireless router and then to the internet, I used to do that when our router goes dead, but I can’t do it here.
Great post by the way, I learned something out of it, keep these kind of posts going. What’s your job if I may ask?
2. Mark | January 8th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
thanks dude. I work in advertising.
3. jane | January 9th, 2007 at 3:09 am
thanks , but why are you an mtc fan? i mean is there a difference in the two? if so what? for one thing mtc live support sucks if there is any difference between the two in terms of services or prices i think they are almost identical.
4. moocherx | January 9th, 2007 at 4:19 am
I have a question… does MTC give speed priority to its own-issued hardware? I use a 3G phone and also live in Salmiya and when I connect to W-Net I get a download speed at night MAX 10Kbps.
5. mishref | January 9th, 2007 at 7:42 am
Does it require it’s own power supply or it’s usb based ?
6. Frankom | January 9th, 2007 at 7:47 am
:: First of all thanks alot Mark for this post i was waiting for it, plus i visited Wataniya Virgin Mega Story Branch last night. So i asked the guy an important question which is “what if i live in 3G area, but the signal gets up and down i mean weak” he said then go for the CARD ! so, i told him that i already have one from MTC suddenly he said DONT COMPARE OUR SERVICE WITH MTC !! okay since i download files at the rate of 50-55k in some places and 110-120k (sometimes) in Hawalli i would say MTC rules over Wataniya.
Thanks again for this post Mark.
7. hs | January 9th, 2007 at 8:04 am
The web pages loaded instantly with Qnet probably because they use a caching device and Wataniya & Shownet didn’t.
8. CyberRowdy | January 9th, 2007 at 9:11 am
Nael, wireless routers are now common these days in kuwait…a lot of people are getting wireless routers, but the problem is that the concrete walls are hard enough for the siglals to pentetrate..where as in states / canada, they use wooden panels and are easy to get through.
9. CyberRowdy | January 9th, 2007 at 9:13 am
siglal = signal & penterate = penetrate :P
10. Nael | January 9th, 2007 at 9:52 am
I never actually put the concrete issue in mind, after thinking about it. Over there, I reside in a wooden house, with wooden fences, but in an apartment here in Kuwait. Thanks.
And yeah, I’ve just checked your site, I have to say that it’s pretty cool and informative, you just got yourself a new regular visitor.
11. KtheKuwaiti | January 9th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
I have both the MTC and Wataniya HSDPA cards .. there is no comparison, Wataniya is much better.
Bottom line for this router; get it if you full under the following:
1. You don’t use your internet often, but want a fast connection.
2. You need multiple connections in different areas (Home, Work, Chalet, Farm).
3. You live in an area with poor dsl service.
4. You need a fast internet solution for work (business dsl lines are much more expensive).
If you plan on using it in one location and extensively .. stick to DSL.
12. Financy | January 9th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
is it fast enough to play xbox360 Live ?
13. sanj | January 9th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Hi all , I am not a techno fan , but I believe modern day mobile technology gives you mobility . As regards the router from Wataniya , I disagree that you should spend so much for a fixed solution ( in the sense that the router needs power supply ) , moreover when I contacted Wataniya support , they could hardy explain howit compares with their own connect card ( I bought one last month ) !!!
One last line about MTC . I have both MTC and Wataniya , yes Wataniya is better in some areas but in some it is MTC , especially roaming service from MTC . They are Kuwait’s pride and I would pride myself being an MTC customer than a Wataniya .
14. didats | January 9th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Mark,
how can I know that my place is 3g area?
I live in Jabriya.
15. NaMmOoR | January 9th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
Yesterday i just saw an AD from united networks it seems to be intresting … and i think im going for it. what do u think guys?
check it out http://www.unitednetworks.com.kw/offers/
16. Mark | January 9th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
pay a few KD extra and go with a 1MB connection from qualitynet who are much more reliable. stay away from united networks and anything related to global direct. plus i heard united networks connection is satellite based not land based like FT, Zajil and Qualitynet which sucks.
17. NaMmOoR | January 9th, 2007 at 6:42 pm
But MARK how much extra should i pay???
if you convinced me i’ll do it…
18. c | January 10th, 2007 at 10:44 am
i did nt like the service much outside the city
19. Marzouq | January 10th, 2007 at 11:32 am
Very thurough review Mark! My hat goes off to you for a good breakdown of the product!
K good pointers!
I dont know if I would get one because its still pretty damn expensive! At least if your going to sign up for a one or two year contract they should give you the equipment for free. It will get the product moving. I will wait until the product drops in price a bit and then I will think about it more.
20. ran | January 10th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
1 question Mark
Do you get the same speed throughout the day ? Is the speed same during high usage time (like say 7 - 12 in the evening) & during low usage time (like say 5-9 in the morning) ?
21. Mark | January 10th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
Ran i am not home in the mornings so i wouldnt know but during peak hours on a weekend it would go down to like 60 or 70kb
22. KtheKuwaiti | January 10th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
There are no differences in terms of speed when compared to their data cards. The router is basically a router+data card.
However, the last time I checked the data card had a 2gb download limit .. and the router was unlimited.
23. Jafar | January 10th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Thanks Mark for a good work.
I use my W-Net and very happy with the fact that I have the service whenever I am away from town but definitly it would be very helpfull if it were battery or USB operated.Then one would really be mobile.
Also I find the built quality of the router a little below par
24. Shylock | January 11th, 2007 at 7:50 pm
Thank you for a very informative review.
Today I went to The Wataniya showroom, and the sales lady was hopeless in answering my questions about the service.
Another comment is why is the advertised speed only 512 when HSDPA is rated at 3.6 Mbit/sec?
25. michael | January 12th, 2007 at 7:35 am
Mark,
United is offering 1mb for 35kd/month. That’s pretty unbeatable. Qnet wants 2x the amount!
26. Mark | January 12th, 2007 at 9:07 am
qualitynet is KD40 if you have NBK and do a 1 year contract.
27. michael | January 12th, 2007 at 9:49 am
huh, really? I didn’t know that. I’m planning on moving soon, and as soon as I get a phone line hooked up, QNet here I come!
28. Mark | January 12th, 2007 at 9:53 am
yeah i pay like 25 now for 512 and 1MB was just KD15 extra a month. was planning on upgrading in my next cycle but now I have the wnet for 6 months which i am using for my downloads so i might stay on the 512 for now.
29. Entra-P-Noor | January 12th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
I got the service since christmas. Couldnt access the router for configuration, when calling them, the company declined to give me the username, password for the router. The listen ports for torrent clients are blocked. I am dissapointed.
30. Mark | January 12th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Entra-P-Noor, there is a reset button underneath the router. hit it and u will be asked to create a new username and pass. then the only setting you need to add to get the router to work is the following:
- Go to quick setup after you login
- Under UMTS access point name put action.wataniya.com
and thats it.
31. Fahad | January 12th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
i`m using the Shownet satellite, and i like to change it because:
1-the bad company support.
2- old software for the this services.
3- there are 3 extra wires in my laptop!!
so the over from UnitedNetwork is good ” u will not get the free wireless modem unless u pay for one year”. also this company is bad in services that u can call for one hour and speak to different five people to get one answer Come to the office plz!?. put really there offer is the less in q8 for 1 MB.
about the wataniya offer, its good i think with keeping in mined there greed, why? i tell u first the minimal speed for the HSDPA is up to 8-10 MB not 512 kB, but theoretical maximum one i know give u 3.6 Mb ” i don’t look for more than 1 Mb and the router give u 1,8 Mb”.
the watanya router price is fair, u will find it at more than 500$ on net, but there is allot of product that support HSDPA one will be in virgin mega store that they toled me will come soon.
the Qnet 1 Mb price is tell 70 Kd/M and i like to know if the 40 kd/M is for year contract or pay one year in advance contract.
i did talk allot sorry:) at this time i well think what subscription i will used ” i don’t used the laptop outside the house allot but i like the idea”.
http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/wireless/ontherun/archives/new-sierra-aircard-bumps-hsdpa-speed-to-36-mbps-9681
http://www.umtsworld.com/technology/hsdpa.htm
32. Mark | January 12th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Fahad if you have an NBK account you make a 1 year contract for 1MB with Qualitynet BUT you pay monthly not all upfront as cash. They make it 12 month installment. Its a special deal they have with NBK so you can get 1MB for KD40 a month.
33. michael | January 12th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Mark,
I currently lack a DSL modem and a phone line. My wife’s Z610i shows a 3G connection. In your opinion, would I be better off getting a phone line and a year contract with QNet, or going for the Wataniya service?
34. Mark | January 12th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
if u can get dsl its better. if not then wnet would be fine.
35. rubso | January 16th, 2007 at 2:37 am
hey, can you be more specific about your “Qualitynet Connection” ?
if you’re having 35 kb/s download speed in your QT Connection, then you must be using 256 kbps, and you got it some what wrong, cause pinging your page with a 256kbps connections gives the result of 200 to 250ms, while yours gives the result of 300 to 350ms, that’s totally wrong.
36. Mark | January 16th, 2007 at 10:02 am
35kb/s is the upload speed not download speed. download is around 63, depends on the time of day and from what location.
37. Unknown | January 17th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
3G is almost everywhere in Kuwait now. W-Net is great especially the W-Net card which you can connect to your laptop its only 99 KD for all the W-Net card and sim card etc.
You can roam around anywhere in Kuwait and have a high speed internet connection. So far W-Net is cheaper that Quality Net or Fast Telco if you compare the speeds. If they ever advertise it being only 512 Kbps they are stupid because it is almost double that speed.
38. 7mani | January 17th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
i but that it’s very cool
i paly it with my xbox360
and it’s kick ass
btw how your download ir 107 mine is like 80
wtf??
39. DiabloQ80 | January 20th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Dear Mark,
Thanx for the usefull tips on Internet connections. I got a delima, I live in Salwa (Block 12) which is too far away from our Phone Center in Salmiya .. I am sure you know about it since you mentioned that you lived in Salwa before. I have DSL service with QNet. I subscibed to 512MB connection but i only get 128 MAX .. this is frustrating. Then, about few months back, I purchased the new MTC Data Card 1.8. they said it could reach up to 1,800 kb … that was a lie, cause i tried it in Salwa, Hawalli, downtown, samelia ..etc and i get 100 kb Max. I used to live in the States and paid less than 10KD for a T1 connection. and now i got to live with this. Can you please advice me on what to get and from whom to solve this problem. W-Net router or Qnet or MTC .. etc
Thanks buddy
40. Mark | January 20th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
well your only option is wnet and mtc and since you get 100kb already with mtc which is the same as wnet then i dont see a reason for your to switch to the other.
41. msk | January 20th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
as i see for salwa proplem in block 12 u can use paradyne router for ur connection also if u chang ur fuse from moc u can fix it as i think what ever the isp united or qnet,,, mr mark Wataniya W-Net they dont have voice over this connection ??? how ican call from msn or skype or any voice programe , :) thanks to u for every thing
42. Matt | January 21st, 2007 at 12:29 am
Mark -
Thanks for the review. I bought a Wnet router the other day (no phone line at home) and so far am pretty happy with it. Have 2 questions for you, though: 1.) The router reads “HSDPA Connected” and I have a good connection via ethernet cable to my desktop computer. However, when I try to resolve web pages on my wireless-enabled laptop, I get redirected to the globesurfer management site which displays an error msg indicating that the internet connection is down. Obviously, this is not the case. I have a wireless connection with a good IP, etc., but simply can’t pull up any web pages. Any idea how to fix this? (Wataniya is clueless when it comes to tech support, I’m sorry to say.)
And 2.) I play a little eveonline from time to time. Tried to connect to the eve server tonight and got the error msg “unable to connect to [address] on port 26000.” Any idea how to configure the wnet router to ensure I can make this connection?
Sorry for the long-winded questions. And thanks for any guidance you can provide.
43. Mark | January 21st, 2007 at 9:12 am
if you are getting redirected to the globesurfer page then you probably can see a button that says connect. if you click on connect and its not connecting then there is something wrong. if it says connected in green but you are still seeing the globesurfer page, exit the browser and come back in.
44. Matt | January 21st, 2007 at 9:41 pm
Mark:
Tried your advice above and it didn’t work. Then, however, I tried your advice to Entra-P-Noor, in which you said to hit the reset button and type “action.wataniya.com” for the UMTS access point name.
Now everything works perfectly. Thank you very much. Let me know if I can buy you a coffee — I owe you!
46. 7mani | January 30th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
i live in salwa also
but my download is 80kb/s
is that ok or what
iheard from my friend theat he got 150kb/s
?? salwa block 7
47. Naman | February 13th, 2007 at 1:24 am
Hi man i want to ask i have 775 seira wireless edge card ok when i connect i have 220 KBPS ok my download speed is maximum 20 kbps ok so i was thinking is there any shop that will buy sierra wireless edge card i am not rich am normal have a laptop computer 6GHZ Hahaha ok have 70 inch tv glass screen haha i want to sell then buy hsdpa one so will anyone buy from me i bought in 2006 it was total 160 KD i will sell for 130KD so will anyone buy i will give the postpaid sim and dataline with it anyone interested. tell me the cheapest ISP here i can found like Q-NET I want 512 Kbps but can you tell me what’s kems offers and zajil and united or showtime there subscription list i want email it on uchihia_sasuke@yahoo.com
48. Billmh | February 16th, 2007 at 9:07 am
DiabloQ80,
What did you ever figure out for Salwa. I just moved to Block 12 and looking to install DSL. From what I hear, the lines may take a long time to install and if they are, will be slow.
Anyone else in Block 12 doing OK with DSL?
49. Billmh | February 16th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
I just installed W-Net. 600kbps on the downloads and 54 on the uploads. Talked to parents in the USA. Great on this end, but they said it was hesitating a bit. Still, we could communicate.
50. wazed | February 21st, 2007 at 2:49 am
Sir, I have bought your wataniya w-net GLOBE SURFER 3G HSDPA. I have bought it 12-2007. First 4 days worked properly but not working good. always law singnal or poor or very law. I now I cant searce properly. my name is wazed ali bachchu mia.mobile no: 6069524. civil id no: 274113002238. pin no:0000, puk no:68433214 and pin:1466 and puk:11283402. personal password:1974. my mobile no:7842715
please solve this problem.
51. bofahad | March 18th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
nice topic , i have the same proplem as comment #29 except that im using AirCard850 . so how do i froword a port ?? my torrent connection is very slow becuse of this. thanx
52. nasser | April 8th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
how can i now if my area have 3g
53. robert | April 26th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
I NEED HELP.
Can i buy this router from somewhere and where would I buy it?
Also, do you need to upgrade the service from Watanyia to get this router to work?
I already have the 14kd service and I know this router (according to watanyia)is only available with the 28 KD service plan.
Can any of you guys help me out with this…thankyou
54. nxman | May 29th, 2007 at 4:08 am
I have the W-net router and its excellent i live in the city,I tried it many times in south of Kuwait in khiran when i go to the chalet in weekends and it dose the job as promised! Robert check the link: http://www.wataniya.com/Wataniya.portal?_nfpb=true&portlet_4_1_actionOverride=%2FServices%2FServicesCenter%2FWnetRouter&_windowLabel=portlet_4_1&_pageLabel=Services_page
55. brett | August 20th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
I am in Mangaf we may be getting fiber optic phones soon, but who knows. Will the Wataniya USB card work for VOIP and webcam? Is it better to wait and try DSL from phone? Who would that be. MTC e-go card is quite slow in this area and seems everyone is completely against using Showtime.
Also, is there a firewall built into this card or is it basically an unsecured network?
56. Fahad | September 15th, 2007 at 8:25 am
HELP ME PLZ !!! .. am really sick of it .. am Using WneT Router (ericsson) 512 speed … and the download rate is so down now … it was around 40’s 50’s then 30’s … now its 8 KB/Sec !! LIKE A DIAL UP CONNECTION !!
PLZ help me i need to fix it out soon .. send me emaiL , post … (am living in mishref)
57. Mystique | September 24th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Same problem here mate ! It’s worse than a dial up.I get 3 kb/sec and watching a you tube video seems eternity
58. Johan | December 7th, 2007 at 8:10 am
Thanks for the post very informative.
I’m pretty new to Kuwait and I noticed the internet speed isn’t that great for much, I’ve been trying to play a few online games during my spare time, it’s laggy and only sometimes I’m even able to play, the problem is the upload is pretty crappy. Does anyone know if any company or any service that offers a decent upload speed?
59. slimsim | December 21st, 2007 at 1:14 am
uhh so is there anyway to increase or fix the torrent download speed with wnet or ego?
60. Faisal | January 6th, 2008 at 2:10 am
Ha ha, its funny the many unfortunate souls like myself, who live in the internet-cursed Salwa block 12.
Here’s my situation:
DSL with Paradyne dosn’t work at 512k, slower than Dial-up at 256k. Qualitynet support blames it on the bad wiring of the block, refuse to do anything and denied me the refund to cancel the service. In short, a big ‘Screw-you, we got your money and thats what we care about’.
Wataniya W-net. Very bad coverage in block 12, confirming our block’s net-curse. Have not yet attempted to complain or demand for refund, but i bet I’ll hear the same answer as Qnet.
61. Heru | January 23rd, 2008 at 3:01 am
seriously this so so stupid … i had this for over 1 year now
paying 28kd every month, works for month or 2.. and then boooom
like today the 3G isnt working they’ve been promising to build a tower in my city (mangaf) and i see nothing yet, everytime i call i get no replay
i visited them in their main building more than 20 times.. switched the router more than 4 times .. and the only reason i cant cancel this is i have no phone lines in this house, let’s say the whole city and yay we know kuwait, it took more than 3 years to add phones in janob el sera how many years i’ll have to wait for mangaf lol
62. wazed | February 20th, 2008 at 9:58 am
dear sir, I have one w-net router but settings already EDGE
63. wazed | February 21st, 2008 at 1:42 am
dear sir, I live in now mahbullah, this is the 3G zone. I use a wataniya W-NET HSDPA router. this connection is already EDGE. I want now HSDPA connection. please inform me how to settings HSDPA..
64. w00t! | March 12th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
this id bullshit
omfglolwtfnab (ya I’m playing wow so w00t ;p)
crap serves and crap customer support
don’t buy this shit i rather dial up connection rather then this crap omfglolwtfnab :D
i live in slawa block 7 when i first by it it was not bad but in august 2007 it’s start dialing up serves so i cancel it :)
65. aRiES | November 5th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
I leave in farwaniya..I’m not satisfied with the wataniya internet speed.
66. Bader Arrar | November 23rd, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Hi, i just wanted to say that overall Kuwait’s internet Speed is very very very crap and its very expensive. I find this sort of retarded, in Europe you can get 80mbps same cost as the dial up over here O.o -.-!!!! Kuwait has lots of oil… they should build carbon fiber in most of the houses in Kuwait. Kuwait should be as advanced as UAE
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