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	<description>A blog by Mark and Nat, a married couple who are living in Kuwait. Mark works in Advertising while Nat works in TV.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: en-jibs</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/we-dont-pee-in-holes-in-the-ground/#comment-440350</link>
		<dc:creator>en-jibs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I couldv'e seen the videos! ;(  Well, from reading the comments, I think she has a right to express her opinions and explain whatever she wants to about her country but it's a pity she listened to the damn threats.
I don't know her personally but I go to NES and I've seen her there...and what a coincedence, Queen Rania also graduated from NES! :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I couldv&#8217;e seen the videos! ;(  Well, from reading the comments, I think she has a right to express her opinions and explain whatever she wants to about her country but it&#8217;s a pity she listened to the damn threats.<br />
I don&#8217;t know her personally but I go to NES and I&#8217;ve seen her there&#8230;and what a coincedence, Queen Rania also graduated from NES! :p</p>
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		<title>By: N. S.</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/we-dont-pee-in-holes-in-the-ground/#comment-440025</link>
		<dc:creator>N. S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are ridiculous. 

"Values" change. Jesus, with the way all of you are talking, I'm surprised we're not still burying female infants at birth. 

You idiotic, numbly crowd following, so called "traditional" asses disgust me. If it was a boy her age, this wouldn't even be note worthy. 

You don't need a foreigner to propagate any stereotype about the lack of progressive thinking in Arab societies -- hell, the lack of any sort of individualism, you've already proven their point, AND provided enough arguments for forced abortions. 

Run along and beat your wives now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are ridiculous. </p>
<p>&#8220;Values&#8221; change. Jesus, with the way all of you are talking, I&#8217;m surprised we&#8217;re not still burying female infants at birth. </p>
<p>You idiotic, numbly crowd following, so called &#8220;traditional&#8221; asses disgust me. If it was a boy her age, this wouldn&#8217;t even be note worthy. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need a foreigner to propagate any stereotype about the lack of progressive thinking in Arab societies &#8212; hell, the lack of any sort of individualism, you&#8217;ve already proven their point, AND provided enough arguments for forced abortions. </p>
<p>Run along and beat your wives now.</p>
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		<title>By: .grg</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/we-dont-pee-in-holes-in-the-ground/#comment-438594</link>
		<dc:creator>.grg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apparently queen rania has done summin similar to lama
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TFf897bUW2Y

and maz jobrani too (related vids ^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apparently queen rania has done summin similar to lama<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=TFf897bUW2Y" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=TFf897bUW2Y</a></p>
<p>and maz jobrani too (related vids ^)</p>
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		<title>By: abeer a</title>
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		<dc:creator>abeer a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do half of you people calling yourselves muslims seem to forget that we are not supposed to judge others? It just interests me how much you'll fight, insult and judge another person because they did something that was not "part of our religion" (In your opinion) and yet you're breaking rules at the same time. Just leave it, it's not up to you to judge, thats for God. You go on and live your life :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do half of you people calling yourselves muslims seem to forget that we are not supposed to judge others? It just interests me how much you&#8217;ll fight, insult and judge another person because they did something that was not &#8220;part of our religion&#8221; (In your opinion) and yet you&#8217;re breaking rules at the same time. Just leave it, it&#8217;s not up to you to judge, thats for God. You go on and live your life :)</p>
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		<title>By: Burhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So -- since I'm late to the party -- let me see if I can summarize this correctly.

1. One girl who was bored decided to post some videos online in response to questions that anyone that has grown up in the Middle East has answered more times that they care to recall (including myself).

2. The girl didn't say she was speaking for all of Kuwait or Saudi or Bengal; it was just her opinion; it doesn't make it right or wrong.

3. For whatever reason, her opinion or her delivery method or the color of her hair or the dress she was wearing or something else, which we still don't know what -- she was threatened by people unknown to us; and she took the decision to remove the videos.

I think that's about it -- the rest of the 90+ responses are exactly what? Two people trying to force their opinions on each other over this lovely freedom of expression vehicle called the Internet; the same Internet that allowed the subject of the discussion to post her videos.

Bring on the popcorn.

Now we are having a name calling debate over who is a better muslim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8212; since I&#8217;m late to the party &#8212; let me see if I can summarize this correctly.</p>
<p>1. One girl who was bored decided to post some videos online in response to questions that anyone that has grown up in the Middle East has answered more times that they care to recall (including myself).</p>
<p>2. The girl didn&#8217;t say she was speaking for all of Kuwait or Saudi or Bengal; it was just her opinion; it doesn&#8217;t make it right or wrong.</p>
<p>3. For whatever reason, her opinion or her delivery method or the color of her hair or the dress she was wearing or something else, which we still don&#8217;t know what &#8212; she was threatened by people unknown to us; and she took the decision to remove the videos.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s about it &#8212; the rest of the 90+ responses are exactly what? Two people trying to force their opinions on each other over this lovely freedom of expression vehicle called the Internet; the same Internet that allowed the subject of the discussion to post her videos.</p>
<p>Bring on the popcorn.</p>
<p>Now we are having a name calling debate over who is a better muslim.</p>
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		<title>By: ka3kee</title>
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		<dc:creator>ka3kee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 23:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talal, wouldn't you just love it if Kuwait was a secular state? At least that's what you're suggesting with your "mix up religion with everything" talk. I know you are really busy advocating people's rights to be hippies, but maybe if you have some free time you can read article two of the Kuwait Constitution, eh?

KTPD, how about you just answer my question? Or maybe you just don't have an answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talal, wouldn&#8217;t you just love it if Kuwait was a secular state? At least that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re suggesting with your &#8220;mix up religion with everything&#8221; talk. I know you are really busy advocating people&#8217;s rights to be hippies, but maybe if you have some free time you can read article two of the Kuwait Constitution, eh?</p>
<p>KTPD, how about you just answer my question? Or maybe you just don&#8217;t have an answer?</p>
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		<title>By: KTPD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KTPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 21:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ka3kee:

Responses like yours prove me right .......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ka3kee:</p>
<p>Responses like yours prove me right &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Talal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F%$king narrow minded zealots!!!

Little farts like you can't take people for who they are. Why do you have to mix up religion with everything? Stop imposing your ideas on people! If you have a problem with what you see/hear, turn away! Who died and make you fucking king of the world?

The internet's a free medium that people may use to express themselves. If someone's vlog offends, do the smart thing and stay away. Incidentally, If I take offence to a.f. and some other idiots clogging up this blog, who do I complain to? Mark, can we vote these jackasses off?

Let me say this again slowly... You NO like... GO AWAY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F%$king narrow minded zealots!!!</p>
<p>Little farts like you can&#8217;t take people for who they are. Why do you have to mix up religion with everything? Stop imposing your ideas on people! If you have a problem with what you see/hear, turn away! Who died and make you fucking king of the world?</p>
<p>The internet&#8217;s a free medium that people may use to express themselves. If someone&#8217;s vlog offends, do the smart thing and stay away. Incidentally, If I take offence to a.f. and some other idiots clogging up this blog, who do I complain to? Mark, can we vote these jackasses off?</p>
<p>Let me say this again slowly&#8230; You NO like&#8230; GO AWAY!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Q80Warlock</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/we-dont-pee-in-holes-in-the-ground/#comment-437609</link>
		<dc:creator>Q80Warlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moey,

I know that, and if you read my comment you'd know that I never mentioned anything about her doing a bad thing. I was making it clear that  for a lot of people here (who are not Kuwaiti/or are of mixed heritage) they don't mind these sort of things, I bet for some people here they won't mind their sisters doing porn even.

She said she was threated now thats a great way of explaining things, by WHOM internet geeks !. It's clear if she's Kuwaiti then someone in her family didn't like it and stopped her.

And who cares about Queen Rania anyways....!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moey,</p>
<p>I know that, and if you read my comment you&#8217;d know that I never mentioned anything about her doing a bad thing. I was making it clear that  for a lot of people here (who are not Kuwaiti/or are of mixed heritage) they don&#8217;t mind these sort of things, I bet for some people here they won&#8217;t mind their sisters doing porn even.</p>
<p>She said she was threated now thats a great way of explaining things, by WHOM internet geeks !. It&#8217;s clear if she&#8217;s Kuwaiti then someone in her family didn&#8217;t like it and stopped her.</p>
<p>And who cares about Queen Rania anyways&#8230;.!!</p>
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		<title>By: Moey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q80-Warlock it is not like she's stripping.

Queen Rania is Vlogging about Jordan, in a very nice way! What's wrong with this girl, she ain't doing any bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q80-Warlock it is not like she&#8217;s stripping.</p>
<p>Queen Rania is Vlogging about Jordan, in a very nice way! What&#8217;s wrong with this girl, she ain&#8217;t doing any bad?</p>
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		<title>By: Bint Nuh</title>
		<link>http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/we-dont-pee-in-holes-in-the-ground/#comment-437577</link>
		<dc:creator>Bint Nuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basit-
 if you were a good muslim you would care ...
dispute with me if you will
but what I have stated is a fact you can''t be a good muslim without being bothered about you fellow muslim brothers and sisters

Lama 
I haven't watched the videos
But a message for Lama I know you mean well but am not sure if you were doing this to clarify islam or the Arabs
but If it were for Islam then remember for whose sake your doing it 4 and that is Allah subhana wa taÃ¡la not for  the culture the people ...etc
or other social worldy issues
since your doing it for his sake we are supposed to uphold this religion according to his subhana wa taÃ¡la's  terms  weather we fail or loose the important thing is to follow the religion.

am not a kuwaiti though kuwait has been my whole life I hardly speak arabic 
but I know am Muslim and that's my nationality islam 
and this issue the vid bothers me 
about forcing islamic principles on anyone
there is no compulsion in religion
but that dosen't mean we turn a blind eye when we see a muslim brother or sister doing the wrong thing
It's our duty to correct her and we will be asked about this on the last day
it dosen't matter if she takes it or not or duty is to point out her fault with wisdom
and am hoping that's why some of the bloggers voiced against having her on youtube
In the end all I can do is make Dua for Allah to guide the muslims truly I feel as though the muslims are living in the worst and the most filthiest of times ,imitation of the kafirs ,weakness,proudness of their sins,filthy nationalism ,putting the intelllect over Allah's words ....etc 
and I remeber the saying of a great imam
if sins had a smell I would be stinking ....course I paraphrased that
and truly this is what I fell stinky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basit-<br />
 if you were a good muslim you would care &#8230;<br />
dispute with me if you will<br />
but what I have stated is a fact you can&#8221;t be a good muslim without being bothered about you fellow muslim brothers and sisters</p>
<p>Lama<br />
I haven&#8217;t watched the videos<br />
But a message for Lama I know you mean well but am not sure if you were doing this to clarify islam or the Arabs<br />
but If it were for Islam then remember for whose sake your doing it 4 and that is Allah subhana wa taÃ¡la not for  the culture the people &#8230;etc<br />
or other social worldy issues<br />
since your doing it for his sake we are supposed to uphold this religion according to his subhana wa taÃ¡la&#8217;s  terms  weather we fail or loose the important thing is to follow the religion.</p>
<p>am not a kuwaiti though kuwait has been my whole life I hardly speak arabic<br />
but I know am Muslim and that&#8217;s my nationality islam<br />
and this issue the vid bothers me<br />
about forcing islamic principles on anyone<br />
there is no compulsion in religion<br />
but that dosen&#8217;t mean we turn a blind eye when we see a muslim brother or sister doing the wrong thing<br />
It&#8217;s our duty to correct her and we will be asked about this on the last day<br />
it dosen&#8217;t matter if she takes it or not or duty is to point out her fault with wisdom<br />
and am hoping that&#8217;s why some of the bloggers voiced against having her on youtube<br />
In the end all I can do is make Dua for Allah to guide the muslims truly I feel as though the muslims are living in the worst and the most filthiest of times ,imitation of the kafirs ,weakness,proudness of their sins,filthy nationalism ,putting the intelllect over Allah&#8217;s words &#8230;.etc<br />
and I remeber the saying of a great imam<br />
if sins had a smell I would be stinking &#8230;.course I paraphrased that<br />
and truly this is what I fell stinky</p>
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		<title>By: Basit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...ameer? Q80Warlock? is that you ...ameer salama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;ameer? Q80Warlock? is that you &#8230;ameer salama?</p>
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		<title>By: Q80Warlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q80Warlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's funny how foreigners around this place just want Kuwaitis to act the way they like, this girl probably pulled back because she feared someone in here family would not like the idea of her being on Youtube. 

I bet many people here don't like that idea either but in order to look cool and open they just state they don't mind it online !

I don't see any of you guy having V-blogs or your sisters for that matter !

Internet people !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how foreigners around this place just want Kuwaitis to act the way they like, this girl probably pulled back because she feared someone in here family would not like the idea of her being on Youtube. </p>
<p>I bet many people here don&#8217;t like that idea either but in order to look cool and open they just state they don&#8217;t mind it online !</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any of you guy having V-blogs or your sisters for that matter !</p>
<p>Internet people !</p>
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		<title>By: ka3kee</title>
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		<dc:creator>ka3kee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a bunch of liberal wackos you guys are! It's really interesting to see how everybody uses words like "choice", "freedom" and "open-mindedness" to justify their stupid actions, yet those same "open-minded" people (or so they claim) refuse to accept the fact that this girl does not represent Kuwait and has nothing to do with true Kuwaiti values. Those who oppose your sick western ideas are "not open-minded" and "not cool". On the other hand, those who departed so far away from our values are called patriotic! Fucking two-faced hypocrites.

Everything that A.f said (in his first post) is correct.

Basit: "first of all, its her choice what she does, and you guys have no say in it."
Typical American(ized) mentality. Our culture is being invaded by the west with ideas like tattoos and piercings and all the other weird shit, yet you defend those who follow them, and you make it sound like we should let Muslims do whatever they please. Since when was it OK in Islam for a woman to wear a tank top and reveal her entire arm (to foreign men)? She may not be Muslim, but some idiots here are making it sound like it's OK even if she was. FYI, I'm not against women video-blogging. K.TheKuwaiti made a good point about the fact that it's not much different than someone appearing on a TV show. BUT, misrepresenting an entire country/culture/religion is not acceptable.

KTDP: "like most things of any benefit she was far too mature for you people"
Benefit? I'm sorry, but could you please ENLIGHTEN us of the BENEFITS of her video, other than your perverse satisfaction out of it?

Ghassan Yonis: "thatâ€™s the most thing I hate about the arab communities, ppl sticking their noses where it doesnâ€™t belong!!"
If it's not my business to stick my nose "where it doesn't belong", then we might as well let people do whatever the hell they want to do. You know, one person will have tattoos, another will have piercings, a third will have his hair dyed in bright colors and gelled in spikes, a fourth will worship Satan, and what do you know? We are already animals. As a matter of fact, all of the things I mentioned are already "practiced" by Kuwaitis. So it IS my business to question (and oppose) these strange habits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of liberal wackos you guys are! It&#8217;s really interesting to see how everybody uses words like &#8220;choice&#8221;, &#8220;freedom&#8221; and &#8220;open-mindedness&#8221; to justify their stupid actions, yet those same &#8220;open-minded&#8221; people (or so they claim) refuse to accept the fact that this girl does not represent Kuwait and has nothing to do with true Kuwaiti values. Those who oppose your sick western ideas are &#8220;not open-minded&#8221; and &#8220;not cool&#8221;. On the other hand, those who departed so far away from our values are called patriotic! Fucking two-faced hypocrites.</p>
<p>Everything that A.f said (in his first post) is correct.</p>
<p>Basit: &#8220;first of all, its her choice what she does, and you guys have no say in it.&#8221;<br />
Typical American(ized) mentality. Our culture is being invaded by the west with ideas like tattoos and piercings and all the other weird shit, yet you defend those who follow them, and you make it sound like we should let Muslims do whatever they please. Since when was it OK in Islam for a woman to wear a tank top and reveal her entire arm (to foreign men)? She may not be Muslim, but some idiots here are making it sound like it&#8217;s OK even if she was. FYI, I&#8217;m not against women video-blogging. K.TheKuwaiti made a good point about the fact that it&#8217;s not much different than someone appearing on a TV show. BUT, misrepresenting an entire country/culture/religion is not acceptable.</p>
<p>KTDP: &#8220;like most things of any benefit she was far too mature for you people&#8221;<br />
Benefit? I&#8217;m sorry, but could you please ENLIGHTEN us of the BENEFITS of her video, other than your perverse satisfaction out of it?</p>
<p>Ghassan Yonis: &#8220;thatâ€™s the most thing I hate about the arab communities, ppl sticking their noses where it doesnâ€™t belong!!&#8221;<br />
If it&#8217;s not my business to stick my nose &#8220;where it doesn&#8217;t belong&#8221;, then we might as well let people do whatever the hell they want to do. You know, one person will have tattoos, another will have piercings, a third will have his hair dyed in bright colors and gelled in spikes, a fourth will worship Satan, and what do you know? We are already animals. As a matter of fact, all of the things I mentioned are already &#8220;practiced&#8221; by Kuwaitis. So it IS my business to question (and oppose) these strange habits.</p>
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		<title>By: Midoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walla 7aram.. We are supposed to support her.. not threaten her! 
Some Kuwaities are assholes, they should start being open-minded..</description>
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Some Kuwaities are assholes, they should start being open-minded..</p>
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