Comments on: White umbrellas? http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/ A blog by Mark and Nat, a married couple who are living in Kuwait. Mark works in Advertising while Nat works in TV. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:17:26 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bo-Bader http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440451 Bo-Bader Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:39:57 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440451 Moe: Do you know what the average pay for Kuwaiti who work in the public/government sector?! The basic salaries are ridiculous and even with social increments it is still ridiculous. My friends who hold Bachelor degrees and work in the ministries get paid about half what expats who work in the private sector. Government salaries did not have significant increase for many and many years. Furthermore, citizens are treated different everywhere in the world not just in Kuwait. I think before we start to open our economy, the government should start cleaning up the mess and start deporting some of the 2 mil. expats and only allow who is really needed. Moe:
Do you know what the average pay for Kuwaiti who work in the public/government sector?! The basic salaries are ridiculous and even with social increments it is still ridiculous. My friends who hold Bachelor degrees and work in the ministries get paid about half what expats who work in the private sector. Government salaries did not have significant increase for many and many years. Furthermore, citizens are treated different everywhere in the world not just in Kuwait. I think before we start to open our economy, the government should start cleaning up the mess and start deporting some of the 2 mil. expats and only allow who is really needed.

]]> By: rampurple http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440408 rampurple Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:53:34 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440408 Moe: I am going to have to disagree with you on this one. Kuwait isn't supposed to provide expats with raises or distribute money amongst them. There isn't a country in the world who does that. The reason you can get a Kuwaiti license if you already have a GCC license is because their traffic laws are extremely similar. It's only natural for you to get tested if you have the Lebanese or Jordanian or Syrian drivers license since they drive a LOT differently than people do here (now how you get your license is a different story altogether). As for the finance companies, i blame that on you. It's not a Kuwaiti thing, it's regulations of the company itself. What you're talking about is interest and not taxes. There are some companies who would deduct the interests when you pay the full amount and you don't have to pay anything for paperwork. When you make a commitment to any company you have to do your homework on the different policies the companies have. Kuwait's economy is booming in a more healthier way than Qatar by the way. As for lifestyle, you can't add that into a discussion of economy. Moe: I am going to have to disagree with you on this one.
Kuwait isn’t supposed to provide expats with raises or distribute money amongst them. There isn’t a country in the world who does that.
The reason you can get a Kuwaiti license if you already have a GCC license is because their traffic laws are extremely similar. It’s only natural for you to get tested if you have the Lebanese or Jordanian or Syrian drivers license since they drive a LOT differently than people do here (now how you get your license is a different story altogether).
As for the finance companies, i blame that on you. It’s not a Kuwaiti thing, it’s regulations of the company itself. What you’re talking about is interest and not taxes. There are some companies who would deduct the interests when you pay the full amount and you don’t have to pay anything for paperwork. When you make a commitment to any company you have to do your homework on the different policies the companies have.
Kuwait’s economy is booming in a more healthier way than Qatar by the way. As for lifestyle, you can’t add that into a discussion of economy.

]]> By: Maz http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440404 Maz Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:39:30 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440404 I was with them yesterday. We're protesting for a more liberal parliament. We have rights as humans, and *those* people are denying us just that. Where's the democracy? Where's the freedom of speech, freedom of choice? By the way. If anyone is concerned about this issue as well as segregation, etc. Go to www.soutalkuwait.com. Let people hear what you have to say! Kuwait shouldn't go downhill! We should retrieve what little dignity Kuwait has left and build on it! I was with them yesterday. We’re protesting for a more liberal parliament. We have rights as humans, and *those* people are denying us just that. Where’s the democracy? Where’s the freedom of speech, freedom of choice?

By the way. If anyone is concerned about this issue as well as segregation, etc. Go to http://www.soutalkuwait.com.

Let people hear what you have to say! Kuwait shouldn’t go downhill! We should retrieve what little dignity Kuwait has left and build on it!

]]> By: RaZ http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440385 RaZ Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:18:08 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440385 Moe: What ever you meant, the bottom line is, the free will of the people is reflected through the members of parliment they chose. Now as much as individually one might agree or disagree with the laws to be drafted, the bottom line is the people voted those law makers to power ! Moe:

What ever you meant, the bottom line is, the free will of the people is reflected through the members of parliment they chose. Now as much as individually one might agree or disagree with the laws to be drafted, the bottom line is the people voted those law makers to power !

]]> By: moayad http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440371 moayad Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:44:05 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440371 and here: http://alwatan.com.kw/Default.aspx?MgDid=643745&pageId=71 and here:

http://alwatan.com.kw/Default.aspx?MgDid=643745&pageId=71

]]> By: moayad http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440367 moayad Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:41:23 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440367 Just in case somebody still interested.. The White Umbrella demonstration was to support more freedoms and constitutional rights. http://alwatan.com.kw/Default.aspx?MgDid=644029&pageId=26 Just in case somebody still interested..

The White Umbrella demonstration was to support more freedoms and constitutional rights.

http://alwatan.com.kw/Default.aspx?MgDid=644029&pageId=26

]]> By: Moe http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440358 Moe Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:48:14 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440358 guys u miss understood what I ment.. I ment as freedom for people to take their own dicision instead of being just being followers.. the clubs term ment the free well.. as any country has it now.. as for alcohol well no comment.. I diid not mean prostitutes at allllllllllllll this is not what i ment lo0o0o0ol this is the last thing I want.. shit I really wrote fast and with no explaning at all.. anyways sorry for the misswritten guys u miss understood what I ment.. I ment as freedom for people to take their own dicision instead of being just being followers.. the clubs term ment the free well.. as any country has it now.. as for alcohol well no comment.. I diid not mean prostitutes at allllllllllllll this is not what i ment lo0o0o0ol this is the last thing I want.. shit I really wrote fast and with no explaning at all.. anyways sorry for the misswritten

]]> By: momo http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440343 momo Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:59:20 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440343 Hey moe, if you dont like it here then why not go to qatar, bahrain, dubai.......if the country isnt good enough anymore? I don't want to see clubs allowed in this country, nor do I want to see girls turning bitchy and walking the streets, nor gays or guys with hair longer than girls ...etc....we got enough of that shit already fact is, i am against segregation, i hate islamist taking over and dont want any new laws that come from them, but that doesn't mean that id prefer to see my country turn into an alcohol-driven, dubai-bahrain-like prostitute crawling whorehouse attracting trash to come from all over to spend their weekends here just keeping things as is with a few improvements is perfect in my book Hey moe, if you dont like it here then why not go to qatar, bahrain, dubai…….if the country isnt good enough anymore?

I don’t want to see clubs allowed in this country, nor do I want to see girls turning bitchy and walking the streets, nor gays or guys with hair longer than girls …etc….we got enough of that shit already

fact is, i am against segregation, i hate islamist taking over and dont want any new laws that come from them, but that doesn’t mean that id prefer to see my country turn into an alcohol-driven, dubai-bahrain-like prostitute crawling whorehouse attracting trash to come from all over to spend their weekends here

just keeping things as is with a few improvements is perfect in my book

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Kuwait: White Umbrella Demonstration http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440339 Global Voices Online » Kuwait: White Umbrella Demonstration Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:52:25 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440339 [...] blogger Mark, who lives in Kuwait, wonders about a protest he saw on his way to work. Demonstrators were wearing [...] [...] blogger Mark, who lives in Kuwait, wonders about a protest he saw on his way to work. Demonstrators were wearing [...]

]]> By: KuwaitQ http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440335 KuwaitQ Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:04:32 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440335 To be honest Moe i wouldnt want Kuwait to be like either Dubai, Bahrain nor Qatar! In fact it doesnt have t be like any other country.. Kuwait has a great taste to it that youll never find in any of these countries All it needs is improvement To be honest Moe
i wouldnt want Kuwait to be like either Dubai, Bahrain nor Qatar!
In fact it doesnt have t be like any other country..
Kuwait has a great taste to it that youll never find in any of these countries
All it needs is improvement

]]> By: Moe http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440333 Moe Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:47:16 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440333 you know what's the problem there is no real mou3arada they all make deals under the table... the people should make a stand and tell them stop we want to be like Dubai and Qatar and Bahrain.. i know that we can be much better 2 coz we are better by location in every term you know what’s the problem there is no real mou3arada they all make deals under the table… the people should make a stand and tell them stop we want to be like Dubai and Qatar and Bahrain.. i know that we can be much better 2 coz we are better by location in every term

]]> By: Moe http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440332 Moe Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:52 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440332 Imagine Kuwait as a free country with freedom of speech, VAT, work hard to gain luxury, clubbing is aloud.. concerts and festivals, girls may walk without hearing the word "ya gat3a" or "arou7lesh fadwa" hard to imagine.. ! Imagine Kuwait as a free country with freedom of speech, VAT, work hard to gain luxury, clubbing is aloud.. concerts and festivals, girls may walk without hearing the word “ya gat3a” or “arou7lesh fadwa”

hard to imagine.. !

]]> By: sfsa78 http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440330 sfsa78 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:36:44 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440330 KuwaitQ... He's lucky he didn't call me.. i would've told him where to stick his vote. This just shows u that people are brainwashed, thanks to the ministry of non-education and mis-information. By the way.. isn't this new formed "mufti style" committee against the very nature of democracy, and against the very basic articles of our constitution??? KuwaitQ…

He’s lucky he didn’t call me.. i would’ve told him where to stick his vote. This just shows u that people are brainwashed, thanks to the ministry of non-education and mis-information.

By the way.. isn’t this new formed “mufti style” committee against the very nature of democracy, and against the very basic articles of our constitution???

]]> By: KuwaitQ http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440326 KuwaitQ Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:21:57 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440326 sfsa78.. I know the mentality your talking about! a person from th campaign of one of the 'Morashi7een' fee il da2era il thanya (2nd) called my friend the night before the election, we were in the diwaniya he so turned on the loudspeaker for us all to hear , thats when we heard him say exactly what you wrote above (how god is waiting for him to make the right decision) ...ofcourse we didnt hang up the phone unil we all had a go at him!! This type of convincing will not work with thinkers, but followers.. sfsa78..
I know the mentality your talking about!
a person from th campaign of one of the ‘Morashi7een’ fee il da2era il thanya (2nd) called my friend the night before the election, we were in the diwaniya he so turned on the loudspeaker for us all to hear , thats when we heard him say exactly what you wrote above (how god is waiting for him to make the right decision) …ofcourse we didnt hang up the phone unil we all had a go at him!!

This type of convincing will not work with thinkers, but followers..

]]> By: sfsa78 http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/white-umbrellas/#comment-440325 sfsa78 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:18:45 +0000 http://www.248am.com/?p=4768#comment-440325 UAE leader has the right vision in dealing with the Islamist extremist phenomenon which is foreign to our traditions: "Last week, the Emirati minister of education made a courageous decision when he reassigned some Islamist Emirati teachers from the Emirates Reform Society to other ministries where they do not have contact with children. This crucial decision has proved that the political leaders in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are eager to prevent their young generations, which represent 60% of the population, from being misinformed or targeted by certain propaganda." http://alwatan.com.kw/Default.aspx?MgDid=643668&pageId=482 its a shame they haven't the balls to do it in kuwait. :( UAE leader has the right vision in dealing with the Islamist extremist phenomenon which is foreign to our traditions:

“Last week, the Emirati minister of education made a courageous decision when he reassigned some Islamist Emirati teachers from the Emirates Reform Society to other ministries where they do not have contact with children.
This crucial decision has proved that the political leaders in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are eager to prevent their young generations, which represent 60% of the population, from being misinformed or targeted by certain propaganda.”

http://alwatan.com.kw/Default.aspx?MgDid=643668&pageId=482

its a shame they haven’t the balls to do it in kuwait. :(

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