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1. 1. 7ussein | January 13th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

   $400 is the average price for pretty decent headphones! 400$ is wayyyyyyy too expensive for a headphone for a NORMAL person and by normal i mean a person who will use them to listen to music or watch movies.unless you’re a DJ or someone who work in music i dont think thats a reasonable price for a headphone.

2. 2. KWT23 | January 13th, 2008 at 11:52 pm

   from the looks: stylish
   hope its as good as u say it is!

3. 3. Mark | January 14th, 2008 at 12:08 am

   7ussein you don’t need to be DJ to need good headphones. Of course though you don’t have to spend $400 and you definitely shouldn’t spend $900, but for $100 to $200 you can get nice stuff.

4. 4. Mark | January 14th, 2008 at 12:15 am

   KWT23 I didn’t say its good, it isn’t out yet but I am hoping the new technology inside them will turn out to be good.

5. 5. Yousef | January 14th, 2008 at 1:34 am

   Nothing beats Pioneer’s HDJ-1000, used by all kinds of DJs worldwide, and it only goes for about $150. With all due respect to Dr. Dre (grandaddy of rap), but I don’t think $400 headphones would quite sell.

6. 6. 7ussein | January 14th, 2008 at 1:52 am

   wut im saying Mark is that u dont have to spend hundreds of dollars to feel a slight difference in sound between the 100-200$ headphones and that 500$ ones i just dont think it is worth it to spend that much money for that slight sound quality which u will barely notice and actually i’ve tried a 500$ bose headphone they sound great and everything but i didnt feel that vast difference in sound quality between it and my 120$ Sennheiser headphones.and of course you’ll need high end equipment to get the best quality out of that headphone im just saying that for everyday use i prefer reasonably priced headphones unless you have so much money to spend that’ll sort of justify buying a 500$ headphone:D its just my opinion.

7. 7. Mark | January 14th, 2008 at 9:34 am

   7ussein of course you didn’t notice a difference between a $500 Bose and a $120 Sennheiser, its because Bose sucks and are overpriced. The $500 Bose and $120 Sennheiser are probably in the same league as quality but the Bose over price their stuff because they have a much higher marketing budget they need to cover. Any person who does just the slightest bit of research will know that Bose is the most over hyped brand in headphones and really don’t offer anything special and that Sennheiser has better headphones.

   Now if you take Bose out of the picture and actually go with proper brands that are actually good then you will easily notice the difference between a $100 headphone and a $400 one.

   Yousef these headphones, the beats aren’t targeted to DJ’s, DJ’s have other requirements in headphones and sound quality is not one of the most important ones. Keep in mind while the DJ’s are djaying they are in an extremely loud environment and so sound quality won’t really be noticeable as much as say comfort, weight, flexibility etc..

8. 8. Sal | January 14th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

   There is one word for headphones, SENNHEISER. Monster Cable sells overrated, overpriced wires, and now headphones. A stupid 1 meter HDMI cable from them costs 20 KD. I bought a generic 25 foot HDMI cable from Amazon for 15 Bucks, yes US Dollars!

9. 9. Yousef | January 14th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

   Mark: Thats not true. DJs need the sound quality for beatmatching and vocals, plus most of the time your hearing from one ear, so the quality has to be especially good on the headphones to be able to hear through the noise. Comfort and weight are important elements, but quality of sound is just as important if not more. Plus I use the Pioneer with my Ipod and its beautiful, wouldn’t use any other headphones.

10. 10. Mark | January 14th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    If you are djaying in a club you wouldn’t need quality because as you said you are listening through one ear and there is really loud music all around you so explain to me how you would notice a difference in quality? What you need is loudness.

    Sorry to disappoint you but Pioneer’s HDJ-1000 isn’t counted as a good sound quality headphone neither does Pioneer make any good sound quality headphone. Even if DJs use it they arent using it because of sound quality, DJs also use Technics headphones but as i said its because these are made for djs they aren’t made for sound quality.

    Of course you will disagree with me so thats why for further proof just visit headfi.org and ask in the forum there and see. Or just do a search for the Pioneer HDJ-1000 and see what has been said.

11. 11. Mark | January 14th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    Just did a quick google on the HDJ-1000 and it seems its getting a lot of negative reviews…

12. 12. Yousef | January 15th, 2008 at 10:11 am

    Mark I’m not seeing what your seeing. I also did a quick google search on HDJ-1000 and I got the following:

    DJBooth.com
    Rating: 9.5/10

    CNET
    User Rating: 7.7/10

    Audioreview.com
    Rating: 5/5

    DJmag.com
    Rating: 5/5

    I’m guessing our problem here is that my definition of sound quality is different then yours. What I look for is minimal sound distortion, good bass response, and no sound alteration at high volume. That plus not having to listen to any outside noise of course.

    I’ve seen the HDJ-1000 used by DJs such as Bob Sinlar, David Guetta, Dirty South, and Eric Morillo live, and I don’t think these DJs would just use a headphone for loudness alone, and they wouldn’t use them if it had such bad reviews.

13. 13. Mark | January 15th, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Yousef you’re serious dude?

    DJBooth.com you said it got a 9.5/10
    The review was 3 sentences long and doesn’t even discuss the sound quality of the headphones.
    http://www.djbooth.net/index/dj-equipment/review/pioneer-hdj-1000/

    CNET you said it got a 7.7/10
    Well it wasn’t a review by CNET it was a review by the readers of the site but even so it got a 7.7 which isn’t high.
    http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/pioneer-hdj-1000-headphones/4505-7877_7-30520481.html

    AudioReview.com you said it got 5/5
    AudioReview don’t review products, the 5 rating was given by 1 reader of the site.
    http://www.audioreview.com/cat/headphones-home-audio/headphones/pioneer/PRD_173595_2750crx.aspx

    Anyway the issue here is that you don’t know what good sound quality is. Everything you mentioned as you definition of sound quality isn’t sound quality its what I pointed out before, its loudness. Minimal sound distortion and alteration at high volume isn’t good sound quality its loudness. Blocking outside noise is also not a judge of good sound quality.

    If you get a closed type headphone you will block more sound then an open air headphone but thats two different types of headphones. There are some headphones that have electronic sound isolation does that mean they have good sound quality?

    Anyway as you pointed out Bob Sinclair, David Guetta and whoever else are using the Pioneer, well yeah they are DJ headphones I never disagreed with you on that. As I mentioned before DJ’s have certain requirements from headphones that helps them out while DJing like the mono/stereo switch which is available on this Pioneer but is a feature that isn’t found on headphones. Doesn’t mean the Pioneer is better because it has these features, it means its targeted to a specific audience. Maybe these Pioneers are the best DJ headphones which I doubt because there are a ton of DJ’s using Sonys for example but say they were the best DJ headphones, that wouldn’t mean they were the best sound quality headphones, for the same price I can find you better quality none DJ headphones. Actually I think the Grado SR60’s have better quality and cost only $70.

14. 14. Yousef | January 15th, 2008 at 11:38 am

    I did mention the CNET review as USER review, and 7.7 for CNET is “very good”. I also noticed you left out DJMag’s review which gives you detailed analysis on the headphones, check it out.

    Anyways, as I said, my definition of sound quality differs than yours. Because I use the headphones for different purposes doesn’t make me not know what good sound quality is, it just makes my requirements different. Plus the last time I spent $400+ on apparently “good sound quality” headphones, it turned out to be complete garbage, worst investment I ever made.

    Now for me comfort is of course an important factor, plus weight and all that, and I don’t disagree with you that there are better sound quality headphones out there. I’m with you 100%. But when I come to compare a $400 plus headphone with a $150 one and I get the same quality, which I have done, to me it’s ridiculous to spend that much on the former. Go ahead and try the Pioneer headphones, I promise you’ll be surprised.

15. 15. Mark | January 15th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    Yousef just because a headphone costs a lot doesn’t mean the sound quality is good. Like one reader mentioned above he tried $500 Bose speakers and they turned out to be crap. I also showed you a pair of $70 Grado’s that have better sound quality then a lot of +$100 headphones.

    Price doesn’t matter.

    And I agree that you have different requirements in headphones but all I said were the requirements you mentioned as sound quality were not related to sound quality.

    Loud headphones doesn’t mean good sound quality
    Expensive headphones doesn’t mean good sound quality
    Bose headphones doesn’t mean good sound quality
    This DJ uses these headphones doesn’t mean good sound quality
    Sound isolating headphones doesn’t mean good sound quality

    Anyway if you listened to the best $400 headphones in the market directly from your iPod I will guarantee you it will probably be the shittiest sounding thing you would probably hear and thats because once you get into the fairly decent headphones they all require to be pre-amped meaning you connect your ipod to a little amp and the little amp will power the headphones. You need to check the impedance, if the headphone has high impedance which the majority of good quality headphones have they won’t run properly. It would be as if you get 200watt speakers and power them up with a 20watt amp. Check the impedance, its usually recommended for ipods not to go higher then 32 but the Sennheiser HD600 for example is 300ohms so if those were the pair you tried they would have sounded crap. Your Pioneers on the other hand are 40ohms which is just slightly over the recommended.

16. 16. Yousef | January 15th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    heheh OK can I get your view on what sound quality is on headphones?

17. 17. K.I.A. Beatz | April 7th, 2008 at 7:25 am

    i am a small producer with only a couple artist and i like to do most of my mixing through head phones but with most head phones im not able to do so and get and accurate mix. each pair of headphones has a different sound. Dre’s new Beats are made specifically for makeing beats. they are designed so you dont have to continuaslly change between listening through monitors and headphones. these arnt designed for use with an ipod even though they could be used for personal listening purposes. MP3s that you listen to on your ipod are already in a low sound quality. for what i do i would easily pay $400 for these and i am not rich. how much your willing to pay depends on what you are using them for.

    Sound quality can be many differant thing such as the bit depth and sample rate but quality headphones for me gives me a flat uncolored sound that i can rely upon in a mix.

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